2016 Postmortem

The Velveteen Ocelot

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26. A Trump presidency would be an existential threat

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Sun May 8, 2016, 06:47 PM

May 2016

and a possible extinction event. Hillary would be an annoying speed bump on the road to a reasonably progressive society but even though she's a bellicose neocon, I don't see her starting WWIII. Trump, on the other hand, might be inclined to let loose with the ICBMs if he believes some other head of state dissed his hair.

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Would ANYONE on DU suggest a Trump presidency is better or the same as HRC? [View all] cloudythescribbler May 2016 OP

If votes were hidden you would get a more accurate picture. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #1

They were never hidden from admins in any incarnation of DU azurnoir May 2016 #6

I know that. But they were hidden from other members. DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #8

Admins could deal with votes in polls that were particularly egregious azurnoir May 2016 #9

I think you're wrong, I'm a bernie supporter but Trump is insane. Nt Logical May 2016 #43

53% of this DU poll openly support Zimmerman. stone space May 2016 #36

Trump would be much worse a President than HRC JonLeibowitz May 2016 #2

It's a mixed bag... Lizzie Poppet May 2016 #3

Hillary honed her voting record during the Bush years Skink May 2016 #4

Today Trump said he wanted to eliminate the Federal minimum wage. You were saying? NT Adrahil May 2016 #19

A mixed bag??? Wake up. ASAP. JaneyVee May 2016 #20

Sigh. But so is Hillary. dchill May 2016 #51

Trump is not to the left of Clinton anigbrowl May 2016 #24

I didn't vote, but I think there is an increasing sense of desperation in the Nay May 2016 #5

Thoughtful comment. I hadn't heard the phrase "useless eaters" before senz May 2016 #16

It's been suggested that Trump win = Democratic Congress sooner. CentralCoaster May 2016 #7

I have faith in people Joob May 2016 #10

A Neoliberal Democrat COULD be a mobilizer for the (relatively) progressive Democrats in opposition cloudythescribbler May 2016 #14

Bernie has plenty of non progressive stances too. JaneyVee May 2016 #21

Substitute SBS for HRC in the choices rock May 2016 #11

Whether Trump would be a disaster may depend on whether you're thinking short term or long term. thesquanderer May 2016 #12

On what planet is Trump more "progressive" on trade and war??? JaneyVee May 2016 #22

I did say "arguably," it's not clear cut, but what I mean is... thesquanderer May 2016 #41

Another silver lining: liberals would start opposing authoritarian overreach again. Maedhros May 2016 #31

Democracy gives us a choice / of which machine to vote with XemaSab May 2016 #13

The same? No. But unappealing in different ways? Ya, that's the nature of 'lesser of two evils' HereSince1628 May 2016 #15

Nominate Bernie, and we won't have to worry about Trump or Clinton at all. nt Zorra May 2016 #17

Would they? They already have! baldguy May 2016 #18

kick cloudythescribbler May 2016 #23

Either would be a disaster for America. 99Forever May 2016 #25

A Trump presidency would be an existential threat The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #26

"Extinction event" seems to be reaching a bit too far. Maedhros May 2016 #32

Trump is a loose cannon. I know there are some things he can't possibly do, The Velveteen Ocelot May 2016 #38

To be honest, so could Hillary. Maedhros May 2016 #40

The Same imari362 May 2016 #27

Clinton is worse than Sanders on immigration, but better than Trump by a mile. Vattel May 2016 #28

this is where us progressives are in a quandary elana i am May 2016 #29

Oh boy another poll! Califonz May 2016 #30

Yawn. . . B Calm May 2016 #33

Trumps presidency would be the ultimate wildcard... JPnoodleman May 2016 #34

This is flypaper. nt Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #35

It is difficult to tell mindem May 2016 #37

Yes, it's getting interesting. senz May 2016 #45

another kick cloudythescribbler May 2016 #39

As a Bernie supporter, I'm fine with banning anyone who answered one or two Logical May 2016 #42

Might make more sense to ban those who want to trap DUers with polls. senz May 2016 #44

I don't give a shit, if you think Trump is the same as Hillary don't let the door hit you in the as Logical May 2016 #46

Do you even try to live up to your username? senz May 2016 #47

It is logical to say Hillary=trump means you are a fucking nut Job! Nt Logical May 2016 #48

Where do you get that crap from? senz May 2016 #50

Logical is a devoted Bernie supporter obamanut2012 May 2016 #54

Get on top of it and see what you can do then... otherwise, you're merely advertising petulance. LanternWaste May 2016 #56

Hey, its my stalker! Missed you. nt Logical May 2016 #57

Herr Trump is already selling out the working class saps that gave him the nomination! workinclasszero May 2016 #49

Not convinced either one would be good for America bigwillq May 2016 #52

question isn't whether any or all candidates are "good", but is HRC likely to be as bad as Trump? Nt cloudythescribbler May 2016 #53

Possibly bigwillq May 2016 #55

yet another kick cloudythescribbler May 2016 #58

and again cloudythescribbler May 2016 #59

I find it hard to imagine anything Trump could do better. Orsino May 2016 #60

my views exactly & succinctly -- yet WHY are some progressives not able to see this? cloudythescribbler May 2016 #61