2016 Postmortem

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)

113. You are revising history that does not belong to you

Tue May 10, 2016, 11:47 AM

May 2016

1987

41,027 persons are dead and
71,176 persons diagnosed with AIDS in the US.

After years of negligent silence, President Ronald Reagan finally uses the word "AIDS" in public. He sided with his Education Secretary William Bennett and other conservatives who said the Government should not provide sex education information. (They are still saying it!)

On April 2, 1987, Reagan said: "How that information is used must be up to schools and parents, not government. But let's be honest with ourselves, AIDS information can not be what some call 'value neutral.' After all, when it comes to preventing AIDS, don't medicine and morality teach the same lessons."
http://www.actupny.org/reports/reagan.html

Reagan's AIDS Legacy / Silence equals death
As America remembers the life of Ronald Reagan, it must never forget his shameful abdication of leadership in the fight against AIDS. History may ultimately judge his presidency by the thousands who have and will die of AIDS.
http://www.sfgate.com/opinion/openforum/article/Reagan-s-AIDS-Legacy-Silence-equals-death-2751030.php

Why Ronald Reagan’s legacy should be vilified, not sanctified
http://www.lgbtqnation.com/2011/02/why-ronald-reagans-legacy-should-be-vilified-not-sanctified/

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Reading this forum is like reading "Red State" with a big splash of Alex Jones. [View all] boston bean May 2016 OP

100% agree, BB obamanut2012 May 2016 #1

The right wing attacks and conspiracies are amazing. Nt NCTraveler May 2016 #2

And because they're anti-HRC, Bernie's ultrapartisans Hortensis May 2016 #33

I totally agree. Andy823 May 2016 #135

I know PowerToThePeople May 2016 #3

The point exemplified. Hortensis May 2016 #37

This is a Hillary Clinton hate site now. nt LexVegas May 2016 #4

You know Lex, that is exactly what it is obamanut2012 May 2016 #10

In the end... DemocratSinceBirth May 2016 #53

And it was(is) an anti-President Obama site before that ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #101

or it could be traced to this.... virtualobserver May 2016 #126

Negligence at the helm. NurseJackie May 2016 #12

I'm afraid you are right. Hillhate spreaders work Hortensis May 2016 #39

I know ... As a Host of the African-American Group, I can tell you ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #104

Come to harass after each round of primaries, win or lose? Hortensis May 2016 #121

Yep ... when Bernie won a primary ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #122

That behavior is exactly like the far right's. Hortensis May 2016 #125

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #127

Too funny. But terribly unfair! Hortensis May 2016 #134

LOL ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #138

Which is deeply ironic. Nonhlanhla May 2016 #60

Telling ... Isn't it? 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #105

Yes indeed. Sparkly May 2016 #67

+1 uponit7771 May 2016 #82

Truth always seems like lies to those running away from it. nc4bo May 2016 #5

Disagree... apcalc May 2016 #9

I disagree. I voted and supported Barack Obama, another Democrat, because of it. nc4bo May 2016 #22

+10,000 nt Live and Learn May 2016 #48

Lack of Judgement--another Bernie talking point asuhornets May 2016 #75

And, now, a trump talking point. Go figure. 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #106

Wouldn't you agree that a candidate's... tex-wyo-dem May 2016 #131

Mrs Clinton has displayed a lack of judgment on several issues. frylock May 2016 #139

what is VRWC? asuhornets May 2016 #146

Your Google broken? frylock May 2016 #148

bye asuhornets May 2016 #151

.. frylock May 2016 #155

funnnnnneeeeee... asuhornets May 2016 #156

You're back! frylock May 2016 #158

Vast Right Wing Conspiracy nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #152

thanks.. asuhornets May 2016 #154

You and I differ on this point. apcalc May 2016 #103

.that^ 840high May 2016 #128

Disgree, here she is making her own baggage: Bluenorthwest May 2016 #25

I love the reruns of moments that seem shocking and scandalous. Sparkly May 2016 #69

Don't bother. This is that poster's hobby horse, Never misses COLGATE4 May 2016 #79

How to identify an ideologue on either side of spectrum or any direction on compass: KittyWampus May 2016 #102

Excellent summary! Thanks!! COLGATE4 May 2016 #136

Oh ... You noticed that, too? ... 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #108

I buried dozens of friends and loved ones while Reagan did nothing. Bluenorthwest May 2016 #111

This is that poster's hobby horse? frylock May 2016 #141

Who the hell asked you? COLGATE4 May 2016 #145

Take your fucking bullshit to your safe haven if you can't hang. frylock May 2016 #147

Do you eat with that mouth? COLGATE4 May 2016 #149

She's done things people don't like, but Hortensis May 2016 #40

This is false on its face uponit7771 May 2016 #85

And lies seem like truth to those who are so blinded by hate that they are synergie May 2016 #115

LOL - Hillary CREATED her own pile NO ONE else. Sorry yall just can't accept it. nc4bo May 2016 #172

And to think that we still have a month of this to deal with baldguy May 2016 #6

Or indictments. frylock May 2016 #142

Sometimes , yes. apcalc May 2016 #7

Wow is right. notadmblnd May 2016 #8

At least when I run across it, I know it's a bunch of rw bullshit. boston bean May 2016 #17

rw bullshit: Bluenorthwest May 2016 #30

You get points for spam. boston bean May 2016 #31

The truth is spam? Then what do you call Hillary's boatload of lies about AIDS and Reagan? Bluenorthwest May 2016 #109

Spam is spam. boston bean May 2016 #119

Your OP is spam. frylock May 2016 #143

There it is again. Sparkly May 2016 #72

There you go again.. tonedevil May 2016 #86

I lived through that period of time. Sparkly May 2016 #92

You are revising history that does not belong to you Bluenorthwest May 2016 #113

Well beng the avid member that you appear to be, I'm sure you do. notadmblnd May 2016 #123

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #11

I supported Hillary until she spouted that nonsense about Nancy Reagan... Human101948 May 2016 #41

I actually don't believe you did. That is because the Hortensis May 2016 #46

Tell that to the dead women and children in Libya, Syria, Honduras, Iraq and many more Hare Krishna May 2016 #71

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #73

Yeah, dead people in Libya, Syria, Honduras, Iraq are meaningless. frylock May 2016 #150

Oh for cryin' out loud Sparkly May 2016 #74

This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel May 2016 #163

Have you been saving up this post since May 5? COLGATE4 May 2016 #81

How many red baiting talking points can you put in one post nadinbrzezinski May 2016 #153

You mean like the people defending Henry Kissinger? Warren DeMontague May 2016 #13

I'm shocked, shocked that the Pentagon would give a former Secretary of State msanthrope May 2016 #18

Im not shocked, either. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #20

I don't think there is a fucking soul on this website that praises Henry Kissinger. boston bean May 2016 #21

Right. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #24

Looking at myself for what? Me praising Henry Kissinger? You best be able to provide some proof of boston bean May 2016 #28

Forget this site. It's Hillary herself who praises Kissinger... Human101948 May 2016 #43

Yep, and every other living ex- SecState, or as she said Hortensis May 2016 #54

A little deeper than that Armstead May 2016 #61

Checked my inner circle...not one war criminal among them Human101948 May 2016 #65

Again, I order to score DU points, one must ignore real life. 1StrongBlackMan May 2016 #114

Do all the other ex-SecsState vacation together? frylock May 2016 #159

Wow.. opiate69 May 2016 #132

I said "looking AROUND yourself". as in, finding the comments, Bean. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #161

They don't have to -- She praises him and spends Christmas with him Armstead May 2016 #56

Do you even read your cut and pastes? boston bean May 2016 #62

Yeah i did...She was saying very nice things about Kissinger, and praising his view of the world.. Armstead May 2016 #64

This dishonesty is just as bad as flat-out lies because Hortensis May 2016 #94

You have pinpointed the problem Armstead May 2016 #95

Oh, no I didn't. I indicted millions of "small people" Hortensis May 2016 #97

Oh, another variation on "support the terrible to avoid the horrible" Armstead May 2016 #99

Unfortunately there is a few arikara May 2016 #133

Who is pretending? msanthrope May 2016 #23

meh. If I wanted to be deeply cynical and ironic Warren DeMontague May 2016 #26

Welcome to the GE. nt msanthrope May 2016 #29

Look- in all seriousness- "the time" is only as "deeply cynical and ironic" as we decide to make it. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #164

Warren....kinda too busy registering voters to wonder what the millenials are yearning for. msanthrope May 2016 #166

You claimed the time was deeply cynical and ironic, not me. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #168

So well said, nothing like an election cycle to demonstrate why I don't live back East.... Bluenorthwest May 2016 #35

Well, that is insulting to liberals who live on the East Coast. boston bean May 2016 #38

No doubt, bluegopher May 2016 #55

Well, I call em like I see em. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #160

As someone who has spent over 20 years on each coast, opiate69 May 2016 #171

+1 uponit7771 May 2016 #88

I know, right? It's like Neocon Central. Waiting For Everyman May 2016 #50

Weak. Sparkly May 2016 #52

You have EXACTLY described the stupidity of the OP. Jim Lane May 2016 #100

MOAR TINFOIL ASAP! JaneyVee May 2016 #14

Republicans are taking over the Democratic party. Thanks to B Calm May 2016 #15

Free trade, pro coal, pro war, honoring Kissinher, anti single payer Mnpaul May 2016 #16

If only Rahm Emanuel would have run, then we all would have united behind Bernie against Clintonian WhaTHellsgoingonhere May 2016 #19

To me it's all noise caused by sour grapes of a losing candidate supporters beachbumbob May 2016 #27

K&R! stonecutter357 May 2016 #32

Interesting -- I would say the same thing -- but for the opposite reasons you have Armstead May 2016 #34

+10,000 nt Live and Learn May 2016 #49

Except, of course, they are citing major news sources. Vinca May 2016 #36

Again, right-wingers complaining about right-wing slime. Broward May 2016 #42

Hang on... OilemFirchen May 2016 #84

The right hates Hillary. The fringe left hates Hillary... SidDithers May 2016 #44

It's the horseshoe theory workinclasszero May 2016 #47

Yup. And on any one issue the U may be more like an O. Hortensis May 2016 #58

I agree workinclasszero May 2016 #45

Why go to the Free Republic when you can see the same material here Gothmog May 2016 #51

Ditto! Iliyah May 2016 #63

Exactly! Sparkly May 2016 #68

And with even better grammar. COLGATE4 May 2016 #83

Could be a great slogan! Sparkly May 2016 #87

I like it!!!! COLGATE4 May 2016 #89

Love it! workinclasszero May 2016 #98

lol uponit7771 May 2016 #91

*snort* TwilightZone May 2016 #117

+1 uponit7771 May 2016 #90

True that. Bobbie Jo May 2016 #57

K&R betsuni May 2016 #59

It's no-one's fault but her own that she inspires the same criticism. polly7 May 2016 #66

If Hillary wasn't a candidate, none of that shit would be happening. Hare Krishna May 2016 #70

My sides hurt. If ONLY the GOP and MSM had taken Bernie seriously... Hekate May 2016 #140

You are absolutely right. still_one May 2016 #76

Not only a large splash of Alex Jones - chunks of World COLGATE4 May 2016 #77

Too much truth for the faithful I'm afraid. BootinUp May 2016 #78

Hyperbole much? HooptieWagon May 2016 #80

no uponit7771 May 2016 #93

Kick with "These Foolish Things" betsuni May 2016 #96

Bullshit. Link or slink. Jim Lane May 2016 #107

Those are some pretty loud crickets! Dark n Stormy Knight May 2016 #165

I admit to a moment of anxiety when I saw I had a response. Jim Lane May 2016 #167

Is the problem you? closeupready May 2016 #110

Ooh bern!!! boston bean May 2016 #118

She voted to give a reckless and incompetent administration the power mountain grammy May 2016 #112

True. You folks ought to cut it out with the "free stuff" memes, the support of TheKentuckian May 2016 #116

+++ frylock May 2016 #157

Thank you. Warren DeMontague May 2016 #162

Nobody's forcing you to come in here. John Poet May 2016 #120

But it's necessary for me to see which posters I should put on ignore... Blue_Tires May 2016 #124

Are you Rip Van Winkle? Larkspur May 2016 #129

I can see that.... blackspade May 2016 #130

Does it have to do with the FBI investigation? frylock May 2016 #137

Free Republic: Now with Better Spelling and Grammar! Hekate May 2016 #144

Personally, I find it entertaining. Il_Coniglietto May 2016 #169

At Red State, they actually oppose Trump tho. Starry Messenger May 2016 #170

It tells ya something doesnt it?? boston bean May 2016 #173