2016 Postmortem

TBF

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4. A product of his times -

Mon Nov 25, 2013, 09:37 AM

Nov 2013

he definitely was a cold warrior (I'm sure they love that) and he did have gobs of money.

But Kennedy was not old anglo-saxton protestant money - he was from an Irish immigrant family and was the product of what folks called "The American Dream". In those days many of the protestants (especially the Baptist) tea baggers wouldn't have given him the time of day.

Great historical article in the Boston Globe about the Kennedy family, rise to riches, and what his death did to the Irish Catholic community --

http://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2013/11/22/his-life-fulfilled-irish-dream-his-death-shattered/LC31k1HWhHvNY96Xq1wk2O/story.html

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Debunking the SILLY right wing meme that "Today, Kennedy would be a Republican." [View all] RBInMaine Nov 2013 OP

Kennedy is the reason the Right Wing created the Ronald Reagan myth liberal N proud Nov 2013 #1

Yes..Before him, they had to "borrow" past democrats..Remember the awesome Lloyd Bentson response to whathehell Nov 2013 #30

He was also for universal healthcare .... Scuba Nov 2013 #2

If Republicans want to model themselves after Kennedy, I can live with that. Tigress DEM Nov 2013 #3

A product of his times - TBF Nov 2013 #4

Also Robbins Nov 2013 #5

Kennedy would have bombed and invaded if the Russians didn't blink. Invasion was ready to go. BUT, RBInMaine Nov 2013 #12

We have no way to know for sure what he would've done if the Russians didn't blink Hippo_Tron Nov 2013 #26

Today's Republicans NewJeffCT Nov 2013 #13

OMG...The anti-historical, anti-intellectual nature of the GOP is getting absolutely 1984-ish. whathehell Nov 2013 #6

Well, it's very debatable if he was more progressive than BC or BO, but he was progressive. RBInMaine Nov 2013 #11

I'm sorry, but I doubt most would find it debatable at all.. whathehell Nov 2013 #16

None of those you mention could ever win a national election. Sorry, but you're pipe dreaming. And, RBInMaine Nov 2013 #31

Yeah, that's what Bill Clinton, and many others, said about Obama in '08.. whathehell Nov 2013 #32

Kennedy did a lot of shitty things to fellow Democrats, Arkana Nov 2013 #7

Such as? whathehell Nov 2013 #18

Well, his family donated to Richard Nixon's Senate campaign Arkana Nov 2013 #20

Okay, but that's only one thing, and as you said, he later regretted it. whathehell Nov 2013 #23

Not as pro-union as you might like: Arkana Nov 2013 #24

Maybe not, but that still translates whathehell Nov 2013 #28

You're gonna try logic and fact with the repiggies? rock Nov 2013 #8

I don't expect them to listen. But they do "hear" it, and it makes them squirm. So I have fun. :-) RBInMaine Nov 2013 #14

The successful Kennedy said "Success has a thousand fathers, defeat is an orphan." nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 2013 #9

Ask them if they want to go back to JFK's "Republican" tax rate? NewJeffCT Nov 2013 #10

Yes, I'm sure they'd LOVE that, Lol...By the way, he did that ONLY with the provision that whathehell Nov 2013 #19

Hell, Ike would be a Democrat for sure. Lasher Nov 2013 #15

Republicans must not really think much of themselves and their *leaders* Proud Liberal Dem Nov 2013 #17

They have a simple mindset... Wounded Bear Nov 2013 #21

Repukes can only wish they had a JFK Carolina Nov 2013 #22

That top tax rate was 90%, Kennedy cut it to 70% Hippo_Tron Nov 2013 #25

Tell them to read Goldwater's last speeches HockeyMom Nov 2013 #27

They like to pretend the same thing about Truman. yellowcanine Nov 2013 #29