2016 Postmortem
In reply to the discussion: Debunking the SILLY right wing meme that "Today, Kennedy would be a Republican." [View all]whathehell
(30,286 posts)Anyone who knows anything about the traditional democratic party -- the party of FDR and the New Deal and what they have
always stood for -- would know that Bill Clinton and Barack Obama are, at best, VERY conservative democrats, certainly
NOT progressive. Thom Hartmann has come out and said that Republican President Eisenhower was more liberal than PBO,
and I believe he is correct.
BC and BO are good on SOCIAL issues, which, as I like to remind people, do not COST anything.
On economic issues, they've basically not much better than republicans, imo, and that is quite significant
considering that those issues affect ALL OF US -- Black, White, Latino, Male, Female, Gay and Straight.
Traditional Democrats ALWAYS stood with Labor...Unlike them, BC ran a "right to work" state in Arkansas,
and did little, if anything for workers in this country. One might even say he hurt workers by allowing the H1-B
visas to continue, and by backing NAFTA. PBO has completely ignored The Employee Free Choice Act ('card check"
as he did the Labor uprisings in the Midwest states like Wisconsin and Ohio, again, after taking
campaign contributions from unions....He's presently locked in secret "trade" talks like the Trans Pacific Partnership,
which its many opponents have labeled "NAFTA on Steroids" -- It's a HORRIBLE deal for workers and even the
basic sovereignity of this country. It amounts to dismantling our democracy for Corporate Rule.
These last two presidents are, basically moderate republicans, IMO...Lots of us are hoping to do better in '16
with people more resembling Elizabeth Warren, Bernie Sanders, Sherrod Brown and Alan Grayson.
THEY are Progressive Democrats -- the rest, not so much...
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