2016 Postmortem

mythology

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44. So in other words, you think they would have folded based on a sternly worded lecture?

Reply to ljm2002 (Reply #35)

Mon Jul 6, 2015, 10:56 AM

Jul 2015

You haven't actually presented even the slightest bit of evidence on how you suggest getting from Point A, the situation we had before the ACA, to Point B, Single Payer, when even an intermediate step took such an effort.

Even Vermont wasn't able to make that happen with one of the most liberal electorates in the country. Yes the economies of scale would make a nationwide single payer system far more cost-effective than one in just Vermont, but if Vermont wasn't willing to take that step, how do you get people or elected officials from other states to do so?

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Ok still_one Jul 2015 #36

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