2016 Postmortem

cascadiance

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113. We're not talking about who BERNIE wants as voters, but who voters want as president!

Mon Jul 27, 2015, 10:44 PM

Jul 2015

If Bernie speaks to many of us in a populist fashion, even if many or most of us are independent or on the left, that doesn't stop Tea Partiers with an ounce of brains to also understand that a lot of what he's pushing will help them more than any other presidential candidates who mostly support corporate America and not the 99%...

There are also likely many banksters and corporate power mongers who would have Hillary as their best choice. They are the last people I'd want to hang with either, but I'd probably still vote for Hillary over so many other of the Republicans who suck in all ways. But I still feel that this country needs as its top priority to disempower those with big money trying to own our government, even if many of them support some social issue positions that I agree with. That's why I'm supporting Bernie now.

When Bernie pushes on so many issues that have the support of a MAJORITY of Americans, then yes, he's going to get some Republicans supporting him too. That doesn't mean you throw those votes away by dismissing them. It means that you are working on the right issues that most Americans support!

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NY Times Attends Clinton House Party in Iowa, Finds Instead MORE SANDERS SUPPORT In Evidence. [View all] Segami Jul 2015 OP

The NYTimes has little credibility left... JaneyVee Jul 2015 #1

They didn't spread anything about Clinton. Fawke Em Jul 2015 #2

I am getting confused artislife Jul 2015 #35

I'm confused, too. Fawke Em Jul 2015 #37

D-KOS good nuff for me. Why shoot the progressive messenger? InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2015 #151

Sure they are.... Segami Jul 2015 #3

Are we fighting Oceania today..or... artislife Jul 2015 #38

damn, artislife. That is funny. :D and true roguevalley Jul 2015 #64

Bookmarking for the next time you quote a positive NYT article about Hillary. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #4

Would you bookmark this for the next time Segami links to them to make a point. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #9

Sure. Consistency and all. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #10

Please see post 2 BeanMusical Jul 2015 #16

I see it. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #17

Thank you for the kicks. BeanMusical Jul 2015 #20

You are very welcome. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #22

He ALMOST convinced me SCantiGOP Jul 2015 #29

So said... Segami Jul 2015 #80

I don't care to glorify the NYT either way like so many here do... Segami Jul 2015 #82

Maybe that's what I'm missing. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #101

You're missing a lot more.... Segami Jul 2015 #103

Your welcome for the bump. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #106

Sen Sanders represents the 99%. I am guessing that some prefer the 1%. rhett o rick Jul 2015 #127

You don't have to take my word for it: JaneyVee Jul 2015 #12

Don't worry. I wouldn't. cherokeeprogressive Jul 2015 #18

Pffft. JaneyVee Jul 2015 #27

+1 L0oniX Jul 2015 #76

You nor anyone else with a lick of sense n/t Scootaloo Jul 2015 #115

given that the people there told their stuff, I don't see how trashing NYT changes that. roguevalley Jul 2015 #62

That's what I said the last time they distorted storied related to the Left. sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #71

Prey tell us which news outlet you prefer. We hear about all kinds that are in disfavor with rhett o rick Jul 2015 #123

No Citizen Need Settle For The Lesser Of Two Corporate Evils - Go Bernie Go cantbeserious Jul 2015 #5

Agreed! Big Vincenz Jul 2015 #32

a-frickin-men cocainecowboy Jul 2015 #42

Go Bernie Go! Agony Jul 2015 #66

Strike up the band!... InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2015 #152

You can say that again! MrMickeysMom Jul 2015 #111

Damn I love your kitties! nt artislife Jul 2015 #156

And just as much as I love cats... MrMickeysMom Jul 2015 #157

I am pet sitting a short hair as we speak artislife Jul 2015 #160

It's a trend, and it will continue. arcane1 Jul 2015 #6

I have felt this way for quite a while now. A Simple Game Jul 2015 #7

Your last paragraph is my experience, too. Jane Austin Jul 2015 #11

That pretty much describes everyone in my family, but one...my mom. She just wants to see a woman President before she dies, as do I. InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2015 #153

Yep. BeanMusical Jul 2015 #13

Another carefully manicured quote. okasha Jul 2015 #72

Really depends on who and how you define as "conservative"... cascadiance Jul 2015 #107

Sorry. I do not trust anyone okasha Jul 2015 #109

I don't trust them either... cascadiance Jul 2015 #110

See preceding post. okasha Jul 2015 #112

We're not talking about who BERNIE wants as voters, but who voters want as president! cascadiance Jul 2015 #113

Disingenuous. okasha Jul 2015 #116

They'll get it by being better off when Korporate Amerika pays their share of taxes, etc. cascadiance Jul 2015 #117

Suuurrre. okasha Jul 2015 #118

Suuurrre. BeanMusical Jul 2015 #121

LMAO! beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #122

Lol, they sure do. BeanMusical Jul 2015 #124

Isn't she past the pupae stage? cocainecowboy Jul 2015 #159

I guess some people forgot her stance on equal rights in 2008. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #161

"Clinton Seeking Shared Ground Over Abortions" beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #119

You forgot to mention that he's a racist too. BeanMusical Jul 2015 #120

Is he? okasha Jul 2015 #129

"Sanders has already dismissed women:s (sic) reproductive rights and LGBT equality" BeanMusical Jul 2015 #130

Agree. Where the hell did that come from? n/t Dawgs Jul 2015 #140

*crickets* beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #149

My phone won't do links very well, okasha Jul 2015 #150

That blog post is your *evidence* that he "dismissed" women's and lgbt rights? beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #154

Really davidpdx Jul 2015 #135

"Bernie can lie down with these dogs if he wants power that badly" beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #114

Amen to that. Behind every Huckabee is a corporation. raouldukelives Jul 2015 #143

Would it be safe to assume that your circle of friends outside DU MyNameGoesHere Jul 2015 #14

I will admit my circle is not that large but my best friend is a conservative who A Simple Game Jul 2015 #44

I'm friends with a Libertarian davidpdx Jul 2015 #136

which is why deb ws is postponing the debates restorefreedom Jul 2015 #21

She can't postpone them forever. Duval Jul 2015 #36

i agree with you on the numbers ..bernie will really take off restorefreedom Jul 2015 #59

yup yup, just a matter of time. tic, tic, tic... InAbLuEsTaTe Jul 2015 #155

To be fair she must be good on stage, after all Goldman Sachs paid her 250k to speak. L0oniX Jul 2015 #75

The more she postpones them, the weaker Hillary looks. winter is coming Jul 2015 #147

"when asked they can't give me a reason why other than "it's her turn" or "it's time for a woman"" senz Jul 2015 #23

You forgot "THE SUPREME COURT!!1!!" tularetom Jul 2015 #28

OMG, how could I forget SCOTUS??? senz Jul 2015 #31

No we don't, not at all dsc Jul 2015 #39

Obviously Democrats are better than Republicans. Obviously. senz Jul 2015 #50

actually the presumptin is that she is attempting to play on a level playing field Sheepshank Jul 2015 #40

Much of the "thought" on DU in the last few months okasha Jul 2015 #45

^^^^^^^^^ sunnystarr Jul 2015 #67

It is a pretty shitty assumption davidpdx Jul 2015 #137

you must be confusing campaing funding with personal finance Sheepshank Jul 2015 #142

I never said, nor implied anything about her "lining her own pockets with campaign money" davidpdx Jul 2015 #165

Wait a minute artislife Jul 2015 #158

I have also heard "she's the only one that can win in the general election" one too. A Simple Game Jul 2015 #46

That's right, that's what I used to hear, too. But lately her numbers senz Jul 2015 #49

Same here, silence on her stands. I caught part of a speech she did the other day on A Simple Game Jul 2015 #53

"Hillary: Better Than a Republican." beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #70

Yep, if she gets the nom, that'll be the one. senz Jul 2015 #83

I know some Hillary supporters.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #60

"The New York Times is shape-shifting into the National Enquirer" Segami 4/20/2015 nt. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #8

LOL SunSeeker Jul 2015 #65

And who do you prefer for a news souce? nm rhett o rick Jul 2015 #125

I was clearly quoting the op. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #138

So what are your thoughts about the Times? BeanMusical Jul 2015 #144

Kick and R. Great post. BeanMusical Jul 2015 #15

Great article. JDPriestly Jul 2015 #19

Smacks of "email criminal investigation" journalism George II Jul 2015 #24

After the latest NYTimes hit piece on Hillary and emails, that Newsweek said was "despicable," pnwmom Jul 2015 #25

You mean Media Matters, founded by one time Clinton enemy turned Clinton sycophant David Brock? tularetom Jul 2015 #30

They listed the stories, all well known and proven false stories that the NYT had published pnwmom Jul 2015 #43

The NY Times may have indeed stepped on their collective foreskins with the "criminal investigation" tularetom Jul 2015 #48

Considering that 250K state department emails on the classified system ended up with Wikileaks, pnwmom Jul 2015 #55

I'm a Bernie supporter but druidity33 Jul 2015 #97

Three months ago the op would have fully agreed with you on your assessment. NCTraveler Jul 2015 #34

The revolution will not be televised . . . or even reported on by big media Damansarajaya Jul 2015 #26

And I hope to God it's happening right now. senz Jul 2015 #54

You and me both, my brother . . . or sister. nt Damansarajaya Jul 2015 #58

The revolution will be tweeted azmom Jul 2015 #69

many primary voters aren't diehards for X or Y, they're looking for the best deal--who best MisterP Jul 2015 #33

By all means, read the full NYT story. okasha Jul 2015 #41

So...Daily KOS and the NYT are Republicans, now? Hmm. senz Jul 2015 #52

The NYT has a possibly fatal case of hepatitis; okasha Jul 2015 #73

No, dpatbrown Jul 2015 #63

Oh come on! The ONLY reason she lost the last time was because Obama had a logo.... Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2015 #47

Drat! Bernie foiled by his logolessness LondonReign2 Jul 2015 #56

ehhemm ...grumble ...mumble ...something about hair ...and teddy bear. L0oniX Jul 2015 #77

You inspired me ... nikto Jul 2015 #96

I have no idea on the accuracy since it is coming from the ny times still_one Jul 2015 #51

If this were reversed, would you feel the same distrust? -nt- 99th_Monkey Jul 2015 #61

You mean the poll reversed on the other candidates, absolutely. As far as I am concerned the NY still_one Jul 2015 #68

Oh, dear. CLEANUP IN GD P! beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #57

Bwahahahahah L0oniX Jul 2015 #78

As soon as I saw the title I knew how it would be received. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #79

That's perfect, bmus. senz Jul 2015 #85

Now they're running an "anti-Clinton operation". beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #86

Maybe if these H-arrow people knew how unfairly the NYT has treated Bernie, senz Jul 2015 #92

The same HC supporters who rec threads citing socialist rags critical of Bernie? beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #95

"them" "looking at this rationally" ...would spoil all the fun we're having. L0oniX Jul 2015 #98

Ikr? beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #100

K & R!!! Thespian2 Jul 2015 #74

I'll vote for Hillary if I have too madokie Jul 2015 #81

When is the NYT going to shut down its anti-Clinton operation? Didn't they learn anything... George II Jul 2015 #84

Funny thing about Sanders: he bears no animosity toward HRC. Likes her, in fact. senz Jul 2015 #88

Clinton has campaigned for him and donated to his campaigns. George II Jul 2015 #91

We sure are dumb, aren't we? I'm selling my eggs and donating to Hillary! beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #90

That. Is. Brilliant ! artislife Jul 2015 #162

Hey we women really know how to sacrifice for the cause. beam me up scottie Jul 2015 #163

*chortle nt artislife Jul 2015 #164

To paraphrase Noam Chomsky ... nikto Jul 2015 #87

Nailed it! n/t L0oniX Jul 2015 #93

Thanks! nikto Jul 2015 #146

While so many are so focused on articles like this Hillary is busy giving her policies. Thinkingabout Jul 2015 #89

What I see as coming from this Babel_17 Jul 2015 #94

Babel, I hope you're wrong. It's too depressing. senz Jul 2015 #99

The Hollywood Ending to that hypothetical ... Babel_17 Jul 2015 #104

Can't stand the way zentrum Jul 2015 #102

You never see her characterized or referred to Segami Jul 2015 #105

I've never seen her referred to that way in the New York Times dflprincess Jul 2015 #108

Not in the MSM zentrum Jul 2015 #139

The article doesn't support your title. RandySF Jul 2015 #126

K & R. Two comments on your excellent post PatrickforO Jul 2015 #128

Kick! BeanMusical Jul 2015 #131

NY Times is a socialist cabal out to get Hillary :tinfoilhat: Cheese Sandwich Jul 2015 #132

Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont, whose hard-left policies... SoapBox Jul 2015 #133

Most of the hardline activist volunteers know will not support Hillary emsimon33 Jul 2015 #134

About those poll numbers. They are polling on landlines. sabrina 1 Jul 2015 #141

Yeah but remember Bernie d_legendary1 Jul 2015 #145

This is the actual choice ... nikto Jul 2015 #148

"hard left" WTF Gray Lady... WTF? apnu Jul 2015 #166