History of Feminism

seabeyond

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42. i had to look up Separatist feminism. thank you BB. you are right.

Wed Feb 20, 2013, 10:20 AM

Feb 2013

Separatist feminism is a form of radical feminism that holds that opposition to patriarchy is best done through focusing exclusively on women and girls.[1] Some separatist feminists do not believe that men can make positive contributions to the feminist movement and that even well-intentioned men replicate the dynamics of patriarchy.[2][verification needed] Author Marilyn Frye describes separatist feminism as "separation of various sorts or modes from men and from institutions, relationships, roles and activities that are male-defined, male-dominated, and operating for the benefit of males and the maintenance of male privilege—this separation being initiated or maintained, at will, by women."[3]

this is interesting. in what i read yesterday, having been challenged in this discussion elsewhere, i was seeing radfem as a whole being defined in the separatist belief. and it was not jiving. what i pulled out from this though, was it is the radfem that gets the ball moving in ALL the other groups. radfem is very much needed in our movement though they are not the whole. but, reading about the separatists, they do have a voice also that needs to be heard, though we may not agree with the whole of what they are saying.

i have yet to hear that we should separate from men. anywhere. i think we ALL feel that men are a very big part of the movement. and without addressing mens issue it would be a fail. i know as a mother of two boys, it is very important in my world.

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Radical Feminism is Dead — Right…. [View all] seabeyond Feb 2013 OP

They wish we pesky women would shut up LiberalEsto Feb 2013 #1

backlash. it is being worked as hard and fast as it can be, for sure, nt seabeyond Feb 2013 #4

It would be helpful Helen Reddy Feb 2013 #2

are there in the rad fem movement? seabeyond Feb 2013 #3

I took a class on the rhetoric and history of Second Wave Feminism, ZombieHorde Feb 2013 #6

That's great you are taking interest. Helen Reddy Feb 2013 #9

Questions for those who were politically aware during the 60s: ZombieHorde Feb 2013 #5

izzz a baby. didnt know nuthing 'bout nuthin'. lol. seabeyond Feb 2013 #7

Awesome. Thanks. nt ZombieHorde Feb 2013 #8

Do your own homework! redqueen Feb 2013 #10

Thanks for the comments, redqueen! nt ZombieHorde Feb 2013 #33

i have spent a lifetime seabeyond Feb 2013 #38

The Reports of the Death of Feminism Are Greatly Exaggerated Demeter Feb 2013 #11

"Death of Feminism Are Greatly Exaggerated". interesting. i hadnt been paying attention. nt seabeyond Feb 2013 #15

I had always considered myself a liberal feminist ismnotwasm Feb 2013 #12

i think our men fems have told us we are not suppose to like twisty. she said something somewhere seabeyond Feb 2013 #16

Was there a problem with the photo in the article? Bonobo Feb 2013 #13

you tell me. is there a problem with a woman warrior? seabeyond Feb 2013 #14

"Nothing to do with the article" Bonobo Feb 2013 #17

They're not "African American slaves" or even "men". They're fucking zombies. redqueen Feb 2013 #18

This message was self-deleted by its author cleanhippie Feb 2013 #27

you are really stretching here. it is from a movie, a woman warrior. seabeyond Feb 2013 #19

I know you don't consume Walking Dead media, so I'll clue you in. ZombieHorde Feb 2013 #37

thank you for this information. i had no idea, but it is sounding even less like an issue seabeyond Feb 2013 #39

Of course you do, because, like that NEVER happens ismnotwasm Feb 2013 #21

It happens in movies, you are right. Too often. Bonobo Feb 2013 #22

Again, she kills ZOMBIES. redqueen Feb 2013 #25

This message was self-deleted by its author cleanhippie Feb 2013 #28

They're zombies. Lots and lots of zombies are killed in that story. ZombieHorde Feb 2013 #36

Fuck no ismnotwasm Feb 2013 #20

If disruption and misrepresentation is all you have to offer this group.... JTFrog Feb 2013 #30

sometmes i find the jury comments very interesting. thanks jt. nt seabeyond Feb 2013 #31

This message was self-deleted by its author JTFrog Feb 2013 #32

Walking Dead is awesome. Michonne is awesome. ZombieHorde Feb 2013 #35

Y'know, Bonobo, more often than not I think you're an okay guy. Even when we disagree. nomorenomore08 Dec 2013 #44

Here we go again...... Helen Reddy Feb 2013 #23

lol. and something that is not even relevant and made up. i am going back up to zombie and answer seabeyond Feb 2013 #24

Good point. Logic and reason are useless when honest discussion is not the goal. nt redqueen Feb 2013 #26

Some men (and their female champions) try very hard MadrasT Feb 2013 #29

They like to interchange feminist separatists boston bean Feb 2013 #34

i had to look up Separatist feminism. thank you BB. you are right. seabeyond Feb 2013 #42

You'd think they don't know how to google or read. redqueen Feb 2013 #40

radfem challenges the very core of who we are. how we identify with self. many feel it an attack seabeyond Feb 2013 #41

Kick redqueen Dec 2013 #43

helen reddy. do you see? i miss helen reddy. so... seabeyond Dec 2013 #45