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BainsBane

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4. There is nothing liberal or progressive about relegating women to second class citizenship
Mon Dec 23, 2013, 10:19 AM
Dec 2013

deprived of protection afforded to other workers and basic human rights. It is nothing more than an effort to justify their determination that women not be treated as equal human beings with the same rights afforded to workers in porn as in any other industry. It is nothing but an excuse to justify what is obviously a backlash designed to keep women in their place. Arguments for equality are now described as "hatred," and posts alerted on as such. These are people relics of the mid-20th century, some of whom oppose EEOC laws, who oppose non-discriminatory health insurance pricing, and who oppose most prosecutions for sexual assault. It is a clear and transparent effort to deprive women of equal citizenship.

Now, one can have a honest debate about porn, about whether its production and influences are benign or negative. They, however, refuse to engage in such a debate. They instead resort to intellectually lazy tactics like you describe above. They don't read the arguments the other side presents and refuse to think about anything but they want.

Those who resort to such tactics, who endorse porn, while opposing equal protection for women in work and healthcare and resent efforts to draw attention to violence against women, have a strong voice on the internet, but in real life they have far less power. Time is marching on, and no matter how much, they scream, stomp their feet, or pout, they cannot change that fact. All they can do is continue to make their lives miserable by nurturing their persecution complexes as they proclaim modern women and feminists in particular as the source of their oppression. In the words of the great William Shakespeare's Macbeth, it is
"a poor player
That struts and frets his hour upon the stage
And then is heard no more. It is a tale
told by idiot, full of sound and fury,
signifying nothing." Macbeth (Act 5, Scene 5, lines 24-28)

I should point out my comments are entirely general. I haven't actually read any porn threads on DU in the last week or so.

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is that what it was all about? i went into the thread to see why it was kicked. but... seabeyond Dec 2013 #1
I haven't looked at any recent porn threads BainsBane Dec 2013 #6
i think that is so incredibly dishonest i never would have thought they would stoop so low. seabeyond Dec 2013 #7
I'm not surprised BainsBane Dec 2013 #9
the problem with warrens theory is the strong majority in u.s. are christian. for his pet porn, seabeyond Dec 2013 #10
There is mercuryblues Dec 2013 #22
i am tired of the dishonesty. continually saying over and over we are something we are not, until seabeyond Dec 2013 #23
I look at it this way mercuryblues Dec 2013 #25
you are correct. the problem is it feeds an illusion not true. i really abhor dishonesty. seabeyond Dec 2013 #28
I'd say that is a perfect contrast. xulamaude Dec 2013 #27
i keep going back and forth to look if there is some other link. i cannot believe they would be seabeyond Dec 2013 #2
Well I'm shocked. Shocked I tell ya. Not! Little Star Dec 2013 #3
There is nothing liberal or progressive about relegating women to second class citizenship BainsBane Dec 2013 #4
A discussion about the harms of porn for many women turns into boston bean Dec 2013 #5
Oh, and what a surprise to see who kicked it back up. UtahLib Dec 2013 #8
OK here is what's going on: MadrasT Dec 2013 #11
I'd say you hit that nail right on the head. xulamaude Dec 2013 #12
I believe if society did not have such rigid, binary ideas about gender and gender roles, MadrasT Dec 2013 #14
Thanks for your response :) xulamaude Dec 2013 #15
Like my Transgender friend who is also a decorated Vietnam vet ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #16
There is also bi-gendered eridani Dec 2013 #18
I have also heard that described as "gender fluid", and know several folks who identify that way. MadrasT Dec 2013 #19
i read this late last night. i am not devious. not who i am. i do not, cannot think seabeyond Dec 2013 #24
What I find strange ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #13
I don't suppose anyone would point out the obvious contradiction BainsBane Dec 2013 #17
You that "cover your boobs" post ismnotwasm Dec 2013 #20
Of course not. It's about controlling women BainsBane Dec 2013 #21
And their favorite "rule 34" gollygee Dec 2013 #26
new meme of the day. so sad, wrong, disheartening our men on du were attacked. seabeyond Dec 2013 #29
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