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Squinch

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79. I hear what you are saying, and I AM encouraged that so many people came out and

Thu Feb 27, 2014, 07:05 PM

Feb 2014

stated their distaste for the boys club. That was a great positive about this.

I just can't help but think that part of the problem is that everywhere we go, there is still the attitude that these are arguable points. They shouldn't be arguable.

If there were just one place that we encountered in our daily travels where true progressive values were honored, where disrespect toward women, LGBT people, or people of color, was simply not tolerated, imagine how revolutionary that would be. If there were just one place with a low threshold for what was considered disrespectful to these groups, imagine how instructive it would be to see THAT in action.

But wishes are not horses, and you are right to point out the positives that did come from it.

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I thought Skinner's answer to Bain in ATA was very good. [View all] sufrommich Feb 2014 OP

?? brucefan Feb 2014 #1

Sorry,I shouldn't have assumed everybody sufrommich Feb 2014 #2

Did he state that DU has ZERO tolerance DURHAM D Feb 2014 #3

No,he didn't. nt sufrommich Feb 2014 #4

Nope. Sheldon Cooper Feb 2014 #8

No, but I do think his response was thouthtful and helpful. BainsBane Feb 2014 #9

I'm not impressed. His words are all very nice, but they do nothing to mitigate the fact that DU Squinch Feb 2014 #10

There actually is a lot of tolerance for racism on DU BainsBane Feb 2014 #13

Yes,there is. nt sufrommich Feb 2014 #14

I know. I agree. But it's exactly what you say: some few feel empowered to express their Squinch Feb 2014 #16

I agree with that BainsBane Feb 2014 #17

I'm sure he's not alone. Squinch Feb 2014 #18

Just read that link - thanks. RBStevens Feb 2014 #19

If I didn't have skin like a rhinocerous BainsBane Feb 2014 #20

Exactly! Damn but if women talk out loud and argue against RBStevens Feb 2014 #21

"playing the vcitim" BainsBane Feb 2014 #24

i thought so also when i was just huh, barely an adult. lol. then you grow up. nt seabeyond Feb 2014 #27

actually the internet allows empowerment for it to grow outside, in real life, i believe. so ya.... seabeyond Feb 2014 #26

And when I say I'm not impresed, Squinch Feb 2014 #22

too surprising and such a supporter... lol, not. nt seabeyond Feb 2014 #25

It makes it sound like hostility is actually good, in the end. Whisp Feb 2014 #30

i do not think it is about the rube getting educated. these battle that we have to constantly have seabeyond Feb 2014 #32

+1 RBStevens Feb 2014 #33

some defenders of Russia really took a crap all over GLBT rights during Sochi geek tragedy Feb 2014 #44

it is warped, those that want to place the blame on people because they have the courage, integrity, seabeyond Feb 2014 #45

You might be noticing it more gollygee Feb 2014 #49

All of it boils down to denial of privilege. sufrommich Feb 2014 #52

THANK!!!!!! YOU!!!!!! Tarheel_Dem Feb 2014 #51

though blurry, i think hte importance of what he said was his line of acceptance. his personal line seabeyond Feb 2014 #23

Well, yes. He did answer. There is that. Squinch Feb 2014 #28

Hi Squinch. DURHAM D Feb 2014 #42

I saw that, and I think I might have been remembering it as I was reading Skinner's response Squinch Feb 2014 #47

Exactly how I see it. n/t MadrasT Feb 2014 #50

sadly I agree DonCoquixote Feb 2014 #53

No he did not. Whisp Feb 2014 #29

I have gathered that there is some (a lot?) of RBStevens Feb 2014 #31

Lots of clicks in those long fights... Squinch Feb 2014 #34

that is the one that makes me squint my eyes, look in the face of our reality we are being given. nt seabeyond Feb 2014 #35

I just re-read Skinner's response RBStevens Feb 2014 #38

Yes. Here is a link to an OP from almost a year ago. DURHAM D Feb 2014 #37

Thank you - started reading through it RBStevens Feb 2014 #39

That was depressing to read,I forgot sufrommich Feb 2014 #46

"Good exercise but you aren't really going anywhere" Squinch Feb 2014 #57

Is not the support from the broader DU community new? BainsBane Feb 2014 #68

There was a huge thread in META then taken over to Welcome & Help Whisp Feb 2014 #60

huge thread in meta coinciding with gormy's. with all our mess, we were totally united in solidarity seabeyond Feb 2014 #61

Here is the link BainsBane Feb 2014 #5

Thanks Bain. I'm not on my computer sufrommich Feb 2014 #6

This is very good to see wryter2000 Feb 2014 #7

Thanks for the link. nt cinnabonbon Feb 2014 #77

yes, but by the metric that Skinner sets, he would deprive the DU community from discussions CTyankee Feb 2014 #11

I'm encouraged by his reply. UtahLib Feb 2014 #12

Thanks for mentioning it, redqueen Feb 2014 #15

Frustrating gaspee Feb 2014 #36

$exism. A-Schwarzenegger Feb 2014 #40

but $ee, it i$ alway$ at the expen$e of the woman to get that $. ya know. nt seabeyond Feb 2014 #41

I think Skinner is trying to allow the site to regulate itself ismnotwasm Feb 2014 #43

I just gotta say A-Schwarzenegger Feb 2014 #48

Naw. Just had a rough background that rose out of the ashes from ismnotwasm Feb 2014 #55

Thanks for this reminder: A-Schwarzenegger Feb 2014 #56

+1 ismnotwasm Feb 2014 #62

Ismnotwasm - with all due respect RBStevens Feb 2014 #54

I've read his replies ismnotwasm Feb 2014 #58

Thanks for your reply :) RBStevens Feb 2014 #59

I second A-Schwarz's post. And I think it's a shame HoF gets such a bad rap. nomorenomore08 Feb 2014 #90

Skinner missed his calling Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #63

Hey you DURHAM D Feb 2014 #65

LOL Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #66

It was a good and thoughtful exchange... hlthe2b Feb 2014 #64

Regarding raising awareness and "education." BainsBane Feb 2014 #67

i have been thinking also. though i agree with what is being said, here of late i have wondered seabeyond Feb 2014 #69

The issue of equal rights for women has been a settled matter among Democrats DURHAM D Feb 2014 #70

the take over of the third wave set it on its ears. clean up time. seabeyond Feb 2014 #71

Time to Move On and leave the ignorance/stupid behind. DU3 is behind the times when it should be Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #72

all that woman. you are so right on. ah ha..... i luv. simply fits perfectly in all that should seabeyond Feb 2014 #73

indeed, we are living in interesting times, sea. Tuesday Afternoon Feb 2014 #74

lol. Who is "we"? You got fleas? DURHAM D Feb 2014 #75

pfffft, i would not be so arrogant to say it is the new second wave. how totally condescending that seabeyond Feb 2014 #76

^^this^^ hlthe2b Feb 2014 #78

I just saw this. This is it, exactly! Squinch Mar 2014 #96

I hear what you are saying, and I AM encouraged that so many people came out and Squinch Feb 2014 #79

Now they've moved on to African American members BainsBane Feb 2014 #80

yup. nt seabeyond Feb 2014 #81

I don't know how anyone can deny white privilege. MadrasT Feb 2014 #82

Jesus the whitesplaining going on is disgusting. MadrasT Feb 2014 #83

They literally don't give a high-flying fuck about anyone but themselves. It's nauseating, really. nomorenomore08 Feb 2014 #92

And they can't imagine that anyone should be able to have a thought that doesn't revolve around them Squinch Mar 2014 #97

I'm embarrassed for the idiots in those sufrommich Feb 2014 #84

i went in and perused one very long thread. ok, didnt bother perusing much. the very seabeyond Feb 2014 #85

As if tiptoeing delicately around a complex and difficult issue accomplishes jack shit. nomorenomore08 Feb 2014 #93

I just saw white privilege called gollygee Feb 2014 #86

It frustrates me BainsBane Feb 2014 #87

One particular OP just makes me want to straight-up smack the guy across the face. nomorenomore08 Feb 2014 #91

I feel that way about a couple of them BainsBane Feb 2014 #95

I started a white privilege thread in GD BainsBane Feb 2014 #88

Threads in GD today show that there is every bit as much tolerance BainsBane Feb 2014 #89

I think Skinner is well-intentioned, but he's still trying too hard to please everybody. nomorenomore08 Feb 2014 #94