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In reply to the discussion: We have our first 2016 Election Hillary is a whore post on DU! [View all]JTFrog
(14,274 posts)89. I have to post Skinner's comment about this because... well... you know....

http://www.democraticunderground.com/12598326
. I agree that person is a troll.
He dropped a turd in a thread, stared a shitstorm, and then made no effort whatsoever to explain himself. Furthermore, he has a history of inflammatory comments like this.
To be clear, as much as it pains me to say it, I don't think that specific post is by itself cause for banning. As you know there is a very long history (including here on DU) of people using the word "whore" to refer to public figures (both male and female) who are doing the bidding of powerful interests. People on this website routinely post about "corporate whores" or "media whores" and barely anyone thinks it is out-of-bounds.
But the fact that this was aimed specifically at a prominent Democrat who is also a woman does bother me very deeply. I am really disappointed that large numbers of DU members (including a majority of the jurors on that post) thought that that post was within bounds. And it wasn't a jury of "trolls" either -- the jurors who voted to leave the post were all long-term members with thousands upon thousands of posts and stars next to their usernames.
So I guess the takeaway here is that we need to decide what kind of community we want this to be. We have the power, though our posts and through our jury service, to set a higher standard. We just have to decide to use it.
And another thing: For people who are seeing this through the partisan lens of the Democratic presidential primary, it seems to me that that supporters of every Democratic presidential candidate have an interest in curbing this kind of language. Obviously Hillary Clinton supporters don't like seeing their favored candidate smeared in this way. But supporters of Bernie Sanders or other Democrats should not want to see this either, because it makes them (and by association, their candidate) look very bad.
"we need to decide what kind of community we want this to be"
We? They set the site up for mob rule. How on earth can community standards ever be upheld in this manner?
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So much to recommend in your post. I spend less time here, but only been here since 2010.
freshwest
Jul 2015
#42
I find it hard to believe you were here in 2008 and never saw anything like that stand.
A Simple Game
Jul 2015
#44
A in 2008 there was a different moderating system. So, yeah the poster knows.
boston bean
Jul 2015
#59
Ya know, in the real world, the judge can over rule a jury when they get it wrong.
Evergreen Emerald
Jul 2015
#2
No the powers that be have it figured out, it's the minorities and women that don't.
A Simple Game
Jul 2015
#49
Also in the real word the jury is given instructions that they listen to and consult with each other
Fred Sanders
Jul 2015
#22
DU has become so ugly it makes people physically ill. So many have left and told me why.
freshwest
Jul 2015
#46
I've actually seen HRC called a whore on and off for some time now. This isn't new, sadly.
freshwest
Jul 2015
#48
that's not unusual either. The righteous response to a misogynistic post is often times
boston bean
Jul 2015
#24
Why would DU allow this-Democrats demeaning Dem candidates in such a vile form?
riversedge
Jul 2015
#26
Well, we all have to give Mr. IBEW (we know it wasn't a woman!) our thanks....
George II
Jul 2015
#35
poster above has been blocked, just so you know he will be unable to reply to any posts made to him.
boston bean
Jul 2015
#38
uh, DU had already devolved when it was determined to be OK by community standards to
boston bean
Jul 2015
#40
No, a response of fuck you to a misogynistic slur was well within the bounds.
boston bean
Jul 2015
#41
I love the statement below from Laura Hudson, I think it holds true not just for harassment but
seaglass
Jul 2015
#52
We're just not going to put up with someone equating the use of the word whore
boston bean
Jul 2015
#81