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jimmy the one

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10. War on DrugsII, nobel peace prize
Tue Apr 19, 2016, 12:03 PM
Apr 2016

tortoise: Here is the amendment: “None of the funds made available for injury prevention and control at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention may be used to advocate or promote gun control.”
Simply studying gun violence is allowed - crossing the line into advocacy isn't.


The way this could be interpreted would allow the gun lobby to criticize Center for Disease Control (CDC) for any gun violence study which cast a bad light upon guns, while allowing favorable pro gun studies. Best of both worlds for the gun lobby, enabling them to point to CDC studies showing how nice & safe & fun gun ownership is, with no counterpoint.
In other words a biased imposition which CDC might not want to 'violate' due a greater excuse to curtail it's funding.
Don't try to put a smiley face on the restriction to CDC funding for gun violence studies. It's chicanery.

tortoise: However, if the CDC puts out facts on the causes behind the gun violence, that would probably be acceptable.

Can't stop coughing. Causes including felons avoiding background checks, ex felons with gun rights reinstated via state law or fopa and endorsed by the NRA? Plea bargaining gun felonies down to misdemeanors or tossed out? High capacity magazines? cheap handguns? gun lobby propaganda that more guns make a family safer? aren't these causes?

tortoise: For example, mental illness is a huge factor in gun deaths, especially suicides. Treat mental illness as an epidemic, put programs in place that actually deal with root causes, and reduce suicides.

Wow, how simple the tortoise solution! how have we missed this all these years?? Let's start mass dialing our congress peoples with a link to this thread. Tortoise, how should we treat 'getting jilted by my first girl'?

tortoise: Another one - how many people are killed every year because of the futile war on drugs? As a start, legalize cannabis and tax the shit out of it. Use the proceeds for drug treatment programs of the nasty stuff like heroin and meth.
These two items alone would probably put a large dent in gun violence, and would most likely meet with public approval.


Wow again! let's nominate tortoise for the nobel peace prize for his simple solutions to american gun problems.
Simple all right. War on DrugsII.

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K&R 2naSalit Apr 2016 #1
KnR Hekate Apr 2016 #2
K&R silvershadow Apr 2016 #3
Ok. Let me get this straight LiberalLovinLug Apr 2016 #4
Actually, there is no ban tortoise1956 Apr 2016 #5
Oh, ok LiberalLovinLug Apr 2016 #6
The problem lies in what is an acceptable solution tortoise1956 Apr 2016 #7
War on DrugsII, nobel peace prize jimmy the one Apr 2016 #10
Yeah, like studying the use of vaccines. Just don't draw any conclusions about their use. nt flamin lib Apr 2016 #8
Access to Guns Increases Risk of Suicide, Homicide billh58 Apr 2016 #9
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