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graham4anything

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26. Let's just say trust with the NRA is just a four letter word
Sun Mar 17, 2013, 05:51 AM
Mar 2013

You will see that what will happen will be,
(fill in the dots...).

Let me say, what will end up happening is we will be loaded up with ugly decedant pictures of guns
(and they will be really large ones) on any thread where some stupid point of minutia comes up where any of us forget to dot an I or cross the T, and as always, it will deflect anyones
discussion.

And it will be real easy to do.

We should from this day forward respect their area, and they should respect ours.
But you know what? After 90 days, they will have more posts here than there, and I bet their area (assuming we all respect their area and stay out of it), their area will be infrequent with posts as they assimilate here.

Remember when we were kids and we played shirts/skins?
If everyone wore the same uniform, it was impossible to remember who was on which side.

I am not for banning anyone or anything from DU as a whole.
However, in a special group, much like I never realized months ago until someone laid down the law in another group, groups are safe havens.

(Just suggesting, don't even know if it can be changed, but- the SOP should be made even more specific, and should be even more specific in what is not tolerated.)

We don't need a lesson in which or what size. Let them argue it in the GD or on their area and it can be referenced here that way.
Who cares about specific minutia specifications when the end result of someone dying is the same no matter what it was that killed them?
Who needs to see those ugly pictures of a gun and someone berating one of us here that we don't know what we are talking about because Gun2 is not Gun3.(and soon Gun4 will be made to specifically not be Gun1).It's only bells and whistles.

And asking for gentlerman's(or gentlewoman's) rules as we all well know, don't work in 2013 in politics, and the NRA does NOT play by any rules but their own.

In a world of insanity where the NRA got laws now making it legal in some states to freely
have a gun with bullets while frequenting a bar (and then arguing who is the best pitcher of all time, Sandy Koufax or Bob Gibson, or arguing the Yankees vs. the Red Sox), at what point does reason come in?
Who thought of that 100% insane idea anyhow?

but let me also say one last thing, from arguing over in their area last year(but never again unless I accidentally make a mistake-) some of the folks there are very decent people.
And those will be ones who will be polite and on their own accord, keep to the SOP here, like they want in their area.

And by Robb saying take it to the jury system, that bothers me, because I am not one who bases my jury vote on who is saying it, or I ignore no one, as I like reading opposing views,
and the jury system doesn't differentiate between the general forums and the individual forums. I have NOT voted to hide pro-gun posts with ugly pictures nor would I in the future,
if they didn't violate the specific civil rule.
I would suggest that most of the posts won't violate the general discussion civil rule. So most all of them would NOT get hidden.
I would bet a great bunch of people here probably don't know that these type of specific group/forum have a different reason for being than the other places, and it ends up beholden to the ultimate host, or other hosts to not allow it, not the general jury system.
There is indeed a difference between the NRA and all the people who have guns.
But normally, it is the NRA that has the loud voice and the wherewithal to stop any and all talk about guns.

So title all the OPs specific and then, though a thread can get derailed,
the title of the first OP post in any new thread stands forever.
(And if later you think of a better title, by all means, edit the title to reflect a better worded one).

Remember, the NRA has million dollar suits paid to do what most say I cannot do myself.
Be brief, concise, get the main point in, paragraph correctly, format it so, etc.
But then the NRA pays the people to do just that.
They wear the suit and tie and business shoes, while I am wearing a sweatshirt and converse sneakers with white socks.

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I second all three of those nominations Bjorn Against Mar 2013 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author graham4anything Mar 2013 #2
I have no problem with Wyldwolf being a host Bjorn Against Mar 2013 #3
I like whomever it was that wrote/said graham4anything Mar 2013 #5
I have heard that before too, gun safety advocates is a better term Bjorn Against Mar 2013 #7
I think Gun Safety would be good in one context, but not here, and this is why. freshwest Mar 2013 #10
Republicans are the party that says government doesn't work, then get elected and prove it. Electric Monk Mar 2013 #11
Well, maybe we have some of them trolling DU, LOL! But that's not us. freshwest Mar 2013 #12
Yes, that's my point. nt Electric Monk Mar 2013 #13
I agree with much of what you say Bjorn Against Mar 2013 #14
Gun Safety sounds like we're teaching NRA Eddie Eagles Classes. ellisonz Mar 2013 #20
And that is the point, to change the debate so the NRA no longer has a monopoly on the language Bjorn Against Mar 2013 #21
That would just confuse people as a forum title. ellisonz Mar 2013 #22
I am not saying it should be the forum title Bjorn Against Mar 2013 #23
That seems pretty creepy to me. nt Mojorabbit Mar 2013 #6
I can't, but second those and graham4anything's addition for hosts. freshwest Mar 2013 #4
to add graham4anything Mar 2013 #8
I appreciate the nomination. Robb Mar 2013 #9
This is why you would make a good host Robb Bjorn Against Mar 2013 #15
Hear, hear! +1,000. apocalypsehow Mar 2013 #18
+1 ellisonz Mar 2013 #19
Let's just say trust with the NRA is just a four letter word graham4anything Mar 2013 #26
I'd support wyldwolf or Robb as head host SecularMotion Mar 2013 #16
That would make a good poll, imho. Head host: wyldwolf or Robb? Electric Monk Mar 2013 #25
All excellent nominations for Hosts, I would wholeheartedly support all of 'em! apocalypsehow Mar 2013 #17
WyldWolf should be a host BainsBane Mar 2013 #24
Kick n/t Tx4obama Mar 2013 #27
There is already an Orwellian attempt to redefine "pro gun control" as *actually* apocalypsehow Mar 2013 #28
yes. astute observation CreekDog Mar 2013 #30
I agree with your nominations. I would like to volunteer to assist as a host! In_The_Wind Mar 2013 #29
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