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CreekDog

(46,192 posts)
5. the rules are the rules, if you can't abide, then you aren't participating here in good faith
Mon Apr 8, 2013, 07:28 PM
Apr 2013

secondly, if you talk about my post wherein most people are unarmed and the crime rate is lower as being some sort of dreamlike world/utopia that doesn't exist, well deadly violence is lower in many places whose populaces are basically unarmed or lightly armed already.

Japan
Germany
United Kingdom
Canada

I didn't ask for utopia, I asked for us to move our culture away from arms and away from violence. Many countries have done so already and while non is crime free, many democracies are places that freer and safer than here in the United States we could imagine.

And if we continue to arm ourselves here (though the rate of gun ownership is dropping), the idea that we will be safer is seriously questionable and I want to counter the idea that we will be safer if such a trend occurs.

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Apples and oranges customerserviceguy Apr 2013 #1
if you don't support gun control, then you shouldn't be posting here. CreekDog Apr 2013 #2
So, you're threatened by answers to your posts? customerserviceguy Apr 2013 #3
the rules are the rules, if you can't abide, then you aren't participating here in good faith CreekDog Apr 2013 #5
By that logic, DU is one big echo chamber, since we don't allow conservatives. nt SunSeeker Apr 2013 #6
you would do well to follow the rules, read this: CreekDog Apr 2013 #8
Thank you. SunSeeker Apr 2013 #7
Sorry, wrong line. freshwest Apr 2013 #9
K&R SunSeeker Apr 2013 #4
This message was self-deleted by its author freshwest Apr 2013 #10
I find that poster to be disingenuous in the extreme. Trunk Monkey Apr 2013 #11
Agreed. And this is why base shootings are so rare. Robb Apr 2013 #12
That makes some sense until you do the math Trunk Monkey Apr 2013 #13
We have police. People leaving and entering the country are searched. Robb Apr 2013 #14
What freedom do you think is lost when guns are removed from the equation, as they are on bases? Trunk Monkey Apr 2013 #15
It doesn't help shedevil69taz Apr 2013 #17
Where were all those guns at exactly? shedevil69taz Apr 2013 #16
you should not be posting here since you don't favor gun control CreekDog Apr 2013 #18
I do actually shedevil69taz Apr 2013 #19
you concern trolled and downplayed my post about lead shot CreekDog Apr 2013 #20
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