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jmg257

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17. Most 'perceived needs' for guns are based on selfishness.
Tue Mar 19, 2013, 12:36 PM
Mar 2013

Selfish in that we just want to have something (collect, fun, hunting, sport, hobby, new, enpowerment...); or selfish in that we need something due to fear (self-defense, home defense, common defense, wild animals, the govmint...).

Of course it's selfishness. How many times have we heard 'the 2nd amendment isn't about need' as the NRA argument against the question 'why does anyone need an AR'? (though of course the 2nd was all about need - a well-regulated militia was at one time thought "necessary&quot .


THE problem is getting past that selfishness. Getting gunners to feel a diminishing of their own perceived needs because they realize the damage guns cause when too many others have the same access. The selfishness in wanting unfettered access, the fear of confiscation re:registration, the selfishness/fear of controlled capacity, the fear of being a victim, &c have to be reduced however/whenever possible,

Unfortunately it takes a massive dose of tragedy to cause that to happen even just a little bit. While a few are re-examining their needs, the rest are stocking up and getting them while they can.


"why would then anyone ever need another bullet, or a functioning gun whatsoever?"
Selfishness, and fear.

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I'm confused... Bay Boy Mar 2013 #1
Self-defense, subsistence hunting, or pest control. slackmaster Mar 2013 #2
Makes me want to emigrate to Australia to get away from the likes of you Kolesar Mar 2013 #4
There's far fewer like that in Australia, but we do have guns here... Violet_Crumble Mar 2013 #24
This was already all debunked in OP. graham4anything Mar 2013 #5
I don't agree with your claim of debunking. slackmaster Mar 2013 #6
Call an exterminator and they set traps and they come back and remove them graham4anything Mar 2013 #8
After the exterminator removes them, then what? slackmaster Mar 2013 #9
Then another nra soundbyte bites the dust. No bullet in the streets are needed. graham4anything Mar 2013 #11
I'll agree with your theoretical scenario. Travis_0004 Mar 2013 #23
There is ZERO reason to have a bullet. ZERO. Trunk Monkey Mar 2013 #31
Selfishness (and greed) rrneck Mar 2013 #3
So what are you arguing here? graham4anything Mar 2013 #7
Guns should not be a fetish object rrneck Mar 2013 #13
No other graham4anything Mar 2013 #15
Human beings are very good at cooperation. rrneck Mar 2013 #16
That idealistic world doesn't exist. Nor is it guaranteed we will have a society that functions dkf Mar 2013 #10
Your bullets are a false icon graham4anything Mar 2013 #12
I have no bullets. But I don't pretend things will always be organized and civilized. dkf Mar 2013 #14
Most 'perceived needs' for guns are based on selfishness. jmg257 Mar 2013 #17
+1. Both emotions are played consistently by the gun lobby to increase sales, not peace or justice. freshwest Mar 2013 #18
I just reread the SOP for this group and found Kingofalldems Mar 2013 #19
Explain please Crepuscular Mar 2013 #20
Use a bow and arrow like the original Native Americans did before the interlopers took their land graham4anything Mar 2013 #21
I do Crepuscular Mar 2013 #22
Or just enact strict regulation, as other countries have done, and eliminate most gun violence. Warren Stupidity Mar 2013 #25
to deal with fear and paranoia DrDan Mar 2013 #26
sounds good in theory Niceguy1 Mar 2013 #27
Who asked ZIMMERMAN to protect me with his gun and bullet graham4anything Mar 2013 #28
why are you making Niceguy1 Mar 2013 #29
Bow and arrow, like the Native Americans did, before the interlopers brought firearms to the country graham4anything Mar 2013 #30
I went back and re-read your OP and you are correct Trunk Monkey Mar 2013 #32
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