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Congratulations to our presumptive Democratic nominee, Joe Biden!
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In reply to the discussion: Disqualifying: Biden gave paid speech supporting repuke in 2018 [View all]Vidal
(642 posts)13. Upton, Dingell, Brooks, & Deutch Reintroduce Gun Violence Reduction Bill: the Jake Laird Act
Upton is a good guy.
Today, during National Police Week and Mental Health Awareness Month, U.S. Representatives Fred Upton (R-MI06), Debbie Dingell (D-MI12), Susan W. Brooks (R-IN05), and Ted Deutch (D-FL22) reintroduced the Jake Laird Act, a bipartisan bill named after an Indianapolis, Indiana, police officer who was shot and killed in 2004 in the line of duty by a man who struggled with mental illness.
This bill provides grants to encourage states to adopt laws, similar to Indiana’s 2005 Jake Laird Law, that enable local law enforcement, with probable cause, to temporarily remove and retain firearms from individuals who are determined to be an imminent danger to themselves or others.
https://upton.house.gov/news/documentsingle.aspx?DocumentID=401200
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Disqualifying: Biden gave paid speech supporting repuke in 2018 [View all]
wellst0nev0ter
May 2019
OP
Well, legally speaking, a sitting rep can't do this, and he's been a career politician for decades.
ehrnst
May 2019
#42
I was talking about candidates, and that their support of certain orgs would be a
ehrnst
May 2019
#419
Biden didn't endorse Upton. However, Sanders did endorse anti-abortionist Heath Mello
still_one
May 2019
#80
So, Biden taking a $200k paid speech to help elect an anti choice Republican is better..
aidbo
May 2019
#110
Reality is your hypocrisy is on full display. Those are Bernie talking points
R B Garr
May 2019
#272
Supporting orgs and PACs that trash Democrats is also a deal breaker in my book.
ehrnst
May 2019
#331
Why didn't he endorse the Democrat in this hard fought race, or even take the phone calls
pnwmom
May 2019
#403
He gave a speech for him weeks before the election, and refused to endorse the Des
pnwmom
May 2019
#402
I get it pnwmom, you don't like Biden, and I suspect you won't vote for him in the primary, and
still_one
May 2019
#406
I get it that you don't want to acknowledge that he's anything less than the perfect candidate. n/t
pnwmom
May 2019
#409
Not at all, Biden's made plenty of mistakes in his career, but on most issues he has
still_one
May 2019
#410
Elizabeth Warren most people should know her when she was an advisor during the financial crisis,
still_one
May 2019
#421
BS hired senior campaign staff who voted for Jill Stein and encouraged others to do so as well.
lapucelle
May 2019
#157
If BrieBrie's candidate loses again, I wouldn't be surprised to see more of the same.
lapucelle
May 2019
#268
For some, the "Bernie standard" applies ONLY to Bernie, not to any other candidate, including Biden.
InAbLuEsTaTe
May 2019
#258
Good example... there are so many other examples I could cite, as I'm sure you could too.
InAbLuEsTaTe
May 2019
#266
BS hired Stein endorsers as campaign manager, press secretary, and senior campaign advisor.
lapucelle
May 2019
#269
Hiring people who bitterly, gleefully & very publicly endorsed a 3rd party candidates in 2016
lapucelle
May 2019
#333
What if it was Bernie who had done this... just imagine!! Oh boy, look out!!
InAbLuEsTaTe
May 2019
#68
He might as well have - Sanders (not a Democrat at the time) supported a pro-life candidate....
George II
May 2019
#288
He didn't support a republican. He simply thanked Upton for supporting a bipartisan bill....
George II
May 2019
#109
In the middle of a campaign. In which he conspicuously declined to endorse the Democrat
Demit
May 2019
#158
The author of the Vice hit piece in the OP link recommended 3rd party voting in 2016.
lapucelle
May 2019
#275
The piece sings Stein's praises and links to a laudatory profile and to her campaign website,
lapucelle
May 2019
#295
This is whataboutism. Whatever Bernie does has nothing to do with what Biden did.
Demit
May 2019
#151
Then why are people on this thread bringing up Bernie on his behalf in whataboutisms themselves?
themaguffin
May 2019
#232
Okay. But I do hope you'll support in the general whomever is the nominee.
FailureToCommunicate
May 2019
#9
Seriously... and I spose the Democratic candidate wouldn't support cancer research?! Doubt that!!
InAbLuEsTaTe
May 2019
#57
HE isn't hiding behind his son's memory. You are acting as though he's an agent in this hit job,
emmaverybo
May 2019
#303
As I said it has been discussed...here are three...took me two minutes to find.
Demsrule86
May 2019
#322
That never stops old Bernie stories from being repeated over and over and over again...
InAbLuEsTaTe
May 2019
#287
His affection for Upton is in part because of the Republican's work to support the cancer research
hlthe2b
May 2019
#10
Biden refused to endorse Upton's Democratic opponent, who went on to lose by less than 5%.
Demit
May 2019
#26
Upton, Dingell, Brooks, & Deutch Reintroduce Gun Violence Reduction Bill: the Jake Laird Act
Vidal
May 2019
#13
This is still primary season. It's not a time to assume anyone will be the nominee.
Demit
May 2019
#27
I'll be looking forward to seeing your undecided status change to supporting
revmclaren
May 2019
#41
Another strategy I've noticed is "Don't make the candidate talk about actual issues,
Autumn
May 2019
#89
Blind partisan hatred is destroying this country; I hope for something better
LongtimeAZDem
May 2019
#22
Once again, he did NOT "support" Upton, he spoke about Upton's help in getting....
George II
May 2019
#49
And vilifying him for doing so says more about the attacker's character than Biden's, IMO
LongtimeAZDem
May 2019
#66
This has been posted several times in the past couple of months. People should dig into.....
George II
May 2019
#24
He didn't endorse the Democrat running against Upton. That's what's worth digging into.
Demit
May 2019
#35
I stand by what I said, and if you think this kind of distorted trash is helping Sanders, the polls
still_one
May 2019
#69
Regardless of The relationship Joe has(d) with Upton, the timing of the speech was questionable
Raven123
May 2019
#48
Why he would think he can work with the GOP better than Obama is a GREAT question to ask.
Demit
May 2019
#254
Why did you vote "Supporting another candidate anyway" but claim you are Undecided?
RelativelyJones
May 2019
#71
I wondered and asked. The OP said Sanders is not in their top 3...unless they are being disingenuous
RelativelyJones
May 2019
#235
Ok, who's on your list of preferred candidates? Have you made an argument why they are the best
RelativelyJones
May 2019
#112
Fair enough, all great candidates. Then why not make an argument for them instead of this strangely
RelativelyJones
May 2019
#132
It's obvious that you didn't understand my post. Too busy typing to read, eh?
earthshine
May 2019
#237
It's a serious debate; I hold with the the "legendary" position, in that there was likely one
LongtimeAZDem
May 2019
#191
Let me know when you're the former VP of the party contemplating a run for president
Demit
May 2019
#176
The standard that Biden exercised here is that of a decent human being. That you have such a
LongtimeAZDem
May 2019
#105
Biden didn't do that, so your question is dishonest. That the person he was decent to
LongtimeAZDem
May 2019
#126
standards. like booing Hillary at our Convention on national tv. #Standards
EveHammond13
May 2019
#163
No, it's just that such bilious attacks are ususally associated with a particular campaign; so
LongtimeAZDem
May 2019
#182
Nope: a speech to a business group. That the candidate was there was incidental.
brooklynite
May 2019
#167
Biden gave a speech about cancer research. Here are the Sanders staffers who voted third party:
R B Garr
May 2019
#305
When Biden's additional tax returns are released soon we'll see what he did with the $150,000....
George II
May 2019
#302
It's disqualifying to praise someone for sponsoring a key cancer research bill????
andym
May 2019
#186
My point goes beyond the implications for that particular election and is far more general
andym
May 2019
#297
I just finished replying to a Bernie post shouting "disqualifying" and found that good sense
emmaverybo
May 2019
#229
I am suspicious. Two DISQUALIFYING posts this morning, one upon the other, against Bernie
emmaverybo
May 2019
#246
So this was a backatcha. It probably should be removed as well. All DISQUALIFIED postings
emmaverybo
May 2019
#264
I was corrected on that by two other members who said Bernie post was first. So I am still
emmaverybo
May 2019
#285
Harry Cheadle, the author of the Vice hit-piece in the OP link, recommended 3rd party voting in 2016
lapucelle
May 2019
#274
Alternately, perhaps the Harry Cheadle Vice hit piece you linked to is "satitical".
lapucelle
May 2019
#282
Brilliant, lapucelle! I was just looking up Harry and also saw he has a definite bias
R B Garr
May 2019
#309
And that one vote was from someone who was supporting Harris (not Biden) on May 10.
lapucelle
May 2019
#313
He noticed with that 4% he did well in Burlington so ran for Mayor of Burlington
JonLP24
May 2019
#320
Talk about bashing Democratic figures...complete with a poll !!! With friends like this.....nt
UniteFightBack
May 2019
#335
So fucking what with this OLD NEWS. Not interested and neither are the people who don't follow
UniteFightBack
May 2019
#338
Oh yeah I'm sure we'll have plenty of time on the debate stage for everybody to say their piece....
UniteFightBack
May 2019
#345
I'm so sick of people and their bullshit dealbreakers when the country is burning down around them.
UniteFightBack
May 2019
#334
Yeah sharp elbows worked out great in 2016 huh? This is DIFFERENT....don't you get that? nt
UniteFightBack
May 2019
#342
Biden: "You will not hear me speak ill of another Democrat." OP are you listening?
Doodley
May 2019
#340
Me neither...I have not trashed other Dems in this forum...there is no reason for it...even
UniteFightBack
May 2019
#344
You give reasons to support Biden, because he"s happy to say when a lawmaker supports something good
Doodley
May 2019
#392
Fine. If you prefer to divide, carry on. Biden is a unity candidate as was Obama. You are welcome to
Doodley
May 2019
#400
You already have done. By saying Biden should be disqualified, you give succor to Trump supporters.
Doodley
May 2019
#411
Probably because he, like me, is not offended by people behaving as decent human beings
LongtimeAZDem
May 2019
#365
Which he did not do. He made a speech to a business group, and praised the cancer support work of
LongtimeAZDem
May 2019
#372
And that you find evil in Biden saying nice things about someone, anyone, is reprehensible
LongtimeAZDem
May 2019
#375
I agree wiht you. should have been self delete just as you said. (my ipinion)
trueblue2007
May 2019
#397
This is disturbing. I know he's friends w/Repubs, but this was going too far. nt
Honeycombe8
May 2019
#404