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To ANY liberal/progressive, anywhere, who refused to vote for Hillary in November, 2016 [View all] RandySF Apr 2023 OP

... lapucelle Apr 2023 #1

She's defending poor Donald Trump these days over Bragg's indictment. emulatorloo Apr 2023 #5

BJGray is MILLIONS %%%% WRONG.. Cha Apr 2023 #18

She's a MAGA. It wasn't about being right, it was about instilling doubt Maru Kitteh Apr 2023 #36

They have no Morals, either.. just Cha Apr 2023 #39

Aloha Me. Apr 2023 #181

Aloha, Me💙 Cha Apr 2023 #189

She does not care. She's raking in $$$ for poisoning the well for Democrats. emulatorloo Apr 2023 #111

A giant fuck to Brianna... Demsrule86 Apr 2023 #206

Or who did but bashed her nonstop Eliot Rosewater Apr 2023 #2

the yes vote was a yes vote DonCoquixote Apr 2023 #4

Of course DU'ers voted for the nominee. That wasn't Elliot's point. emulatorloo Apr 2023 #9

And, too many voted for Stein's LIES, Cha Apr 2023 #23

I know many that did exactly this edisdead Apr 2023 #47

The myths of "It Was Rigged" "Her Is Warmonger" "Corrupt Corporate Shill WALL STREET" did lots of betsuni Apr 2023 #64

And they still dont get it, they are still defending their bashing. Eliot Rosewater Apr 2023 #113

there is a mile of difference between bashing DonCoquixote Apr 2023 #212

What flaws did the GOP exploit? betsuni Apr 2023 #213

Gladly DonCoquixote Apr 2023 #214

That's it? Okay, thanks. She DID have lots of ideas for the economy, these were ignored. betsuni Apr 2023 #217

warren DonCoquixote Apr 2023 #218

VP pick was a religious thing, in my opinion. betsuni Apr 2023 #220

ok, we agree DonCoquixote Apr 2023 #221

! Million + Me. Apr 2023 #180

so no one should have critiqued Hillary? DonCoquixote Apr 2023 #107

Critiques fine. Outright lies, disinformation and conspiracy theories were NOT FINE. emulatorloo Apr 2023 #108

Agree Meowmee Apr 2023 #162

No, once she was the candidate and the only one who could beat Trump, all criticism should have Demsrule86 Apr 2023 #200

I vote hard D, always have. DonCoquixote Apr 2023 #215

I am laughing now because I am picturing Hillary as werewolf. Demsrule86 Apr 2023 #219

From THe Left Me. Apr 2023 #182

Those her critiqued her on social media...influence others to not vote for her so...I despise them Demsrule86 Apr 2023 #10

What certain decisions, exactly? betsuni Apr 2023 #54

And Let's Not Forget The Nevada Caucus Me. Apr 2023 #183

Ah but did it influence other votes? And more than a few of those who critiqued her didn't Demsrule86 Apr 2023 #205

This. nt BlackSkimmer Apr 2023 #68

+1 betsuni Apr 2023 #69

Or said that Planned Parenthood was the establishment... BlueCheeseAgain Apr 2023 #3

Yep. sheshe2 Apr 2023 #16

Yeah, abortion is identity politics right up until your own wife bleeds out from miscarriage... Hekate Apr 2023 #119

This message was self-deleted by its author sheshe2 Apr 2023 #17

Oh god - I remember that JustAnotherGen Apr 2023 #30

Damned straight. Just A Box Of Rain Apr 2023 #6

That is what I think too...If you didn't vote for Hillary in the General you helped elect Trump. Demsrule86 Apr 2023 #7

That is what I think too...If you didn't vote for Hillary in the General you helped elect Trump. Demsrule86 Apr 2023 #8

PRECISELY B.See Apr 2023 #53

Yep. Again mcar Apr 2023 #11

Agree Meowmee Apr 2023 #12

No it's not. She won by 3 million votes. It's on the Republicans and the electoral college. Autumn Apr 2023 #13

HRC lost MI by 13,080 votes, WI by 27,257 and PA by 68,236 RandySF Apr 2023 #20

You don't like the Constitution change it. In every election I remember there have been several Autumn Apr 2023 #48

"The people make their choice" Martin Eden Apr 2023 #74

They weren't voters on the left, they were the swing voters. Autumn Apr 2023 #85

One of many factors Martin Eden Apr 2023 #97

They certainly receive no blame. Only one group get's the blame. Autumn Apr 2023 #120

Not much to be gained by playing the blame game, but ... Martin Eden Apr 2023 #127

All I know is that my former friends were not swing voters. They were committed lefties, Autumn. Hekate Apr 2023 #116

I don't know one person on the left that didn't vote for Hillary, even if they had to hold Autumn Apr 2023 #122

How nice for you. Hekate Apr 2023 #125

Did all your "committed lefty" friends live in the three states once known as the Blue Wall? Autumn Apr 2023 #126

Post removed Post removed Apr 2023 #164

Aren't you the sweet one. Autumn Apr 2023 #167

I know. Texaswitchy Apr 2023 #159

Some of the responses ... Hekate Apr 2023 #160

That is not true. More than a few left this site and went to JPR...and I can tell after reading Demsrule86 Apr 2023 #207

... lapucelle Apr 2023 #24

Oh my. Somebody named David Wasseman blames Stein too. Autumn Apr 2023 #161

Oh dear. lapucelle Apr 2023 #163

This is America. You still believe this if you choose. However, I don't and will never forgive Demsrule86 Apr 2023 #208

That's the way it goes. Everybody has the right to vote for whom they choose. It's not a belief, its Autumn Apr 2023 #210

What's missing is.. mvd Apr 2023 #25

Those voters voted for the candidate of their choice. Yes it's stupid to vote for a third Autumn Apr 2023 #49

Kinda Cosmocat Apr 2023 #152

Likewise those who said there was no difference between Bus and Gore Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2023 #14

They were called Tweedle Dum & Cha Apr 2023 #21

But But Hillary didn't come to their own state enough and EARN their vote! NBachers Apr 2023 #15

Exactly! I can't understand anybody calling themselves a Democrat doing that... CTyankee Apr 2023 #73

That was the worst excuse. "She hasn't earned my vote." yardwork Apr 2023 #100

I live in a state of 40 million people and I never get to see a presidential candidate. That excuse Hekate Apr 2023 #118

David Sirota continued to do his best to depress the HRC vote right up until election day. lapucelle Apr 2023 #19

I remember this. sheshe2 Apr 2023 #22

Me too. And he will never ever admit he was wrong. emulatorloo Apr 2023 #26

True. sheshe2 Apr 2023 #28

I wonder JustAnotherGen Apr 2023 #31

Good question, JAG. sheshe2 Apr 2023 #34

Don't forget about James Comey Beaverhausen Apr 2023 #27

Comey dominated that race from start to finish. StevieM Apr 2023 #52

Can we just move on? Lunabell Apr 2023 #29

No JustAnotherGen Apr 2023 #32

Spin your wheels over it. But it falls on closed ears. Lunabell Apr 2023 #37

We're Not talking to them.. Too bad you Cha Apr 2023 #43

lol Lunabell Apr 2023 #45

Absolutely the RF are being Called out Cha Apr 2023 #46

It's as old as the latest woman dying from pregnancy complications iemanja Apr 2023 #59

seriously? Lunabell Apr 2023 #63

Please iemanja Apr 2023 #90

Because their goal is to destroy the country iemanja Apr 2023 #58

No, people who vote third party do not want to destroy America. intheflow Apr 2023 #83

+1 Emile Apr 2023 #84

Yet it is Al Gore who won the Nobel Peace Prize for environmental activism, not Ralph Nader lapucelle Apr 2023 #86

AFTER he lost the presidency and was free to write his book. intheflow Apr 2023 #95

You need to read the post more carefully. Any and all defense of the Russia-fronted* Green Party lapucelle Apr 2023 #96

No one said otherwise. intheflow Apr 2023 #104

So when you said "his book", it was really "his other book", not the 1992 book lapucelle Apr 2023 #106

Let's revisit how you started this subthread: intheflow Apr 2023 #115

Wait...what? Actually, no. Not everyone understands other people's posts, and that's fine. lapucelle Apr 2023 #128

Mahalo, lapucelle! No way can anyone Cha Apr 2023 #140

Nobel, not Pulitzer. Also, Gore's work for the environment was always notable. You mentioned media Hekate Apr 2023 #141

Ralph Nader Still Refuses to Admit He Elected Bush Cha Apr 2023 #149

She was the most admired woman in America before the primary iemanja Apr 2023 #89

+1 leftstreet Apr 2023 #94

Nonsense. Hillary Clinton was and is greatly admired. yardwork Apr 2023 #102

Hillary was voted most admired woman for 17 years, her approval rating nearly 70%. betsuni Apr 2023 #146

Nader was Rove's puppet LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2023 #148

Hope the third party voters enjoyed Trump. Texaswitchy Apr 2023 #157

You really believe that nonsense ExWhoDoesntCare Apr 2023 #166

Thank You, Gen! 💙 Cha Apr 2023 #42

+1 Starry Messenger Apr 2023 #169

We're paying for it NOW. RandySF Apr 2023 #33

Damn Straight. Cha Apr 2023 #41

No.. WE are Discussing this. Cha Apr 2023 #40

During the 2000 campaign, folks were sold a similar "lesser of two evils" bill of goods. lapucelle Apr 2023 #78

THIS. Thank you. Hekate Apr 2023 #142

Or denied "lesser of two evils" meant they were calling the Democratic nominee evil. betsuni Apr 2023 #145

Unfortunately, no. We are all paying the price now. yardwork Apr 2023 #101

No. Because the damage doesn't just linger in, it grows exponentially every day. Hekate Apr 2023 #124

No-we were warned LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2023 #147

Not a chance ExWhoDoesntCare Apr 2023 #165

+1 betsuni Apr 2023 #178

Also every non-voter and "I'm not into politics" dumbass. RockRaven Apr 2023 #35

"Nobody inspires me". RandySF Apr 2023 #38

It's the political equivalent of "I'm hungry" "What do you want to eat?" "I dunno" "How about-" "No" RockRaven Apr 2023 #44

Gen Z is over rated. Texaswitchy Apr 2023 #158

This is the far more relevant issue, because it's a problem today. Sky Jewels Apr 2023 #105

I stood in line for more than a half-hour, to vote for Hillary DemocraticPatriot Apr 2023 #50

And in the 2020 Michigan Democratic presidential primary, I voted for JOE BIDEN DemocraticPatriot Apr 2023 #55

It's not people like you, it's the "Bernie or Bust" crowd that (rightfully) gets a lot of shit here Silent3 Apr 2023 #62

To be clear, I'm not addressing anyone who voted Democratic in Nov. 2016 RandySF Apr 2023 #139

Special shout out to the bernie bros and jill stein voters!!! dsp3000 Apr 2023 #51

what people, randy ??? DemocraticPatriot Apr 2023 #56

If you read some of the responses to this thread iemanja Apr 2023 #92

Which one? BWdem4life Apr 2023 #57

Seven years ago. Sky Jewels Apr 2023 #60

Yep. Lunabell Apr 2023 #61

Yes the past is past. But I don't want to see a repeat in 2024. Briahana Joy Gray promotes RFK JR emulatorloo Apr 2023 #133

There have been massive, massive changes since 2016. Sky Jewels Apr 2023 #135

Agreed. A whole different ball game. But ... emulatorloo Apr 2023 #136

Christ on a Trailer Hitch, that is a ghastly photo Hekate Apr 2023 #143

Yes. Texaswitchy Apr 2023 #156

I will say this. Texaswitchy Apr 2023 #154

"The past is past let's move on" argument, no. Attacks against Hillary were all about the past, betsuni Apr 2023 #65

Yawn RandiFan1290 Apr 2023 #66

"Centrists" -- who? Trump wasn't a centrist. betsuni Apr 2023 #67

Trump voters were a mixed bag, but they don't seem to have been the dreaded "centrists". lapucelle Apr 2023 #80

Thanks for posting those numbers. emulatorloo Apr 2023 #109

some evidence to back this up: Trump was a net +6 with mixed ideology centrists, and a plus 15 net Celerity Apr 2023 #79

I blame those who said they were on our side and stabbed us in the back by electing Trump...Stein Demsrule86 Apr 2023 #209

It should have been apparent that TRUMP was a MAJOR THREAT Martin Eden Apr 2023 #70

THANK YOU Skittles Apr 2023 #71

+1 betsuni Apr 2023 #72

I was on team Bernie back then sky_masterson Apr 2023 #75

"The party sort of screwed us back then" -- what does that mean? "Rigged" conspiracy theory? betsuni Apr 2023 #76

Okay sky_masterson Apr 2023 #77

+1 intheflow Apr 2023 #88

Your totally right about how Bernie people treated Tree Lady Apr 2023 #117

It was awful. intheflow Apr 2023 #121

'Rally Size' doesn't equal Votes. Senator Sanders voters didn't show up in 2016 or 2020 emulatorloo Apr 2023 #110

Rally sizes reflect excitement. sky_masterson Apr 2023 #112

I know you wanted her to win. emulatorloo Apr 2023 #132

Post removed Post removed Apr 2023 #123

Yes he won primaries. But not enough. And journalists gave him a lot of very favorable press. emulatorloo Apr 2023 #130

No. Hillary had a nearly 70% approval rating and it wasn't until the media started with betsuni Apr 2023 #151

But the truth is sky_masterson Apr 2023 #176

Maybe "establishment" in the same way that Planned Parenthood was "establishment". lapucelle Apr 2023 #82

It was nothing about her gender to me. sky_masterson Apr 2023 #87

There were plenty of folks who say "I'd vote for a woman, just not that woman" lapucelle Apr 2023 #93

I don't know. I will support her if she is the nominee. sky_masterson Apr 2023 #98

That's why I don't believe we'll ever have a woman Bettie Apr 2023 #131

Absolutely. As soon as Kamala is our nominee, it'll be "just not that woman" all over again. Hekate Apr 2023 #144

"Establishment" might mean voting with Republicans and the NRA on guns. lapucelle Apr 2023 #99

Shhhhhhhhh ... that's a secret. betsuni Apr 2023 #168

Amen, amen, amen. (nt) Paladin Apr 2023 #81

I go back to the Nader crew in 2000 Renew Deal Apr 2023 #91

Yup ismnotwasm Apr 2023 #103

For a third time... N/T lapucelle Apr 2023 #114

Exactly ismnotwasm Apr 2023 #129

Hillary Clinton warned you about the courts, about Roe and about Trump and his racism LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2023 #134

Yes. And we were told the courts don't matter mcar Apr 2023 #150

I was screaming Supreme Court and Roe. Texaswitchy Apr 2023 #155

I voted for Bernie in the 2016 and 2020 primaries. I voted for Clinton and Biden in the liberal_mama Apr 2023 #137

There are some states like WV RandySF Apr 2023 #138

Might happen again 2024. Texaswitchy Apr 2023 #153

Easy to say now. In retrospect. Who knew he'd be Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2023 #170

Anyone with an ounce of sense who saw Trump sniffing and crazily ranting nonsense for a few seconds betsuni Apr 2023 #171

Anyone who saw his nazi campaign rallies and fascist cultist mobs Meowmee Apr 2023 #172

But Hillary got paid for a Goldman Sachs speech about being Secretary of State and fundraised betsuni Apr 2023 #173

Yes and that was pushed by so called dems and fakes as a reason not to vote hrc Meowmee Apr 2023 #174

Fantasy of a left and right wing populist alliance class revolution. Ridiculous. betsuni Apr 2023 #177

At the time it was happening Meowmee Apr 2023 #192

Guess you were saying that in 2016? I recall many Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2023 #185

His bankruptcies and love life have been splashed across the front pages of tabloids since the 80s. betsuni Apr 2023 #186

Totally disagree. But that's our party! Totally free to disagree :) Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2023 #196

Why did you think he would change? That "weathervane" thing? betsuni Apr 2023 #197

He was going to change, start acting reverent because Laura PourMeADrink Apr 2023 #198

Could Shoot A Person On 5TH Ave Me. Apr 2023 #184

Me. And not just him. They. I've always known "it" could happen Hortensis Apr 2023 #191

Getting harder and harder, what with outrageous Republican extremism, to do betsuni Apr 2023 #193

How great if THAT insidiously self-kneecapping pattern Hortensis Apr 2023 #195

I couldn't agree more Pototan Apr 2023 #175

You Are So There With This Me. Apr 2023 #179

I'd say something but my words would burn. librechik Apr 2023 #187

This message was self-deleted by its author Hassin Bin Sober Apr 2023 #188

I can't wait to see a variant of this kind of OP two weeks from now Rob H. Apr 2023 #190

ad nauseum Lunabell Apr 2023 #194

Next year and the year after. Till the end of time. Autumn Apr 2023 #199

Never forget. Just A Box Of Rain Apr 2023 #201

"I'm With Her" NotVeryImportant Apr 2023 #202

Stronger Together was her main campaign slogan. betsuni Apr 2023 #216

While we're at it, let's rehash blame for the 2000 election Chakaconcarne Apr 2023 #203

I hate the Greens to this day for 2000. I will never forgive them because Trump got judges Demsrule86 Apr 2023 #204

Heck...why stop there GenThePerservering Apr 2023 #211