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PCIntern

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4. To my knowledge...

Fri May 9, 2025, 10:39 AM

15 hrs ago

I do not know a single person who carries sufficient identification with them that proves that they are a citizen of the United States. My passport leaves my house when I take a vacation on a cruise line or a plane overseas. Otherwise it sits in my drawer. My birth certificate is Also in the same place and never leaves the house.

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Marisa Kabas: ICE stopping cars in DC and asking for papers [View all] Dennis Donovan 15 hrs ago OP

What "papers" Prairie Gates 15 hrs ago #1

They have detained US citizens, claiming driver's license wasn't enough IronLionZion 14 hrs ago #20

I refuse to carry my passport for a trip to the grocery store! Lonestarblue 13 hrs ago #38

Seems improbable that they could stop everybody -- lost tourists, people passing allegorical oracle 13 hrs ago #44

it's not legal barbtries 13 hrs ago #61

That went out in 1968 with Terry v Ohio, when the Court invented "detention" out of whole cloth. rsdsharp 13 hrs ago #68

Then in 1990 Michigan v. Sitz allowed "minimal" intrusion roadblocks for DUI prevention Ponietz 9 hrs ago #76

And, of course, Pennsylvania v. Mimms, which allows them to order you out of the car for "officer safety." rsdsharp 8 hrs ago #85

Probably not a "Real-ID" as that is now required for federal buildings and such. So just a regular DL is not good LiberalArkie 13 hrs ago #52

That's what I was thinking. TommyT139 8 hrs ago #80

Papers please is really a world wide thing and has been for decades. If stopped by police anywhere in the world they LiberalArkie 8 hrs ago #82

Sounds targeted to me. Wonder who they were really after? flying_wahini 15 hrs ago #2

They appear to be targeting democratic party strongholds and states. oldmanlynn 14 hrs ago #27

Bet they wave through white people, especially those driving a late-model car. They're allegorical oracle 13 hrs ago #46

If this is all lawful... FalloutShelter 15 hrs ago #3

RIGHT !! Let's say it is lawful who tf wants to be part of an organization that's got to cover their faces in their own uponit7771 15 hrs ago #10

Nazi punkass, lawless, knuckledraggers? Magoo48 14 hrs ago #19

Yep, literally the Nazis cleared the jails of racist to shoot Jews and socialist in the beginning but uponit7771 13 hrs ago #50

Look at the beer guts on these slobs! pdxflyboy 14 hrs ago #35

I wouldn't put it past MAGA to do this very thing uponit7771 13 hrs ago #51

Agree. MorbidButterflyTat 8 hrs ago #87

I don't think sobriety check points are actually legal any more DENVERPOPS 14 hrs ago #18

You are not required topresent ID without cause as far as I know. Cheezoholic 13 hrs ago #54

To my knowledge... PCIntern 15 hrs ago #4

Military ID is considered a Real ID. So Dependants, Retirees, and Reservists... haele 15 hrs ago #11

Does Real ID prove citizenship? PCIntern 15 hrs ago #13

RealID is proof of legal residency. haele 14 hrs ago #15

And a non-compliant state ID does not mean the holder is here illegally. Ms. Toad 14 hrs ago #21

My CA Driver's License doesn't have the RealID embed on it. haele 14 hrs ago #25

Yup. Ms. Toad 13 hrs ago #40

Can't recall the year, but Jeb Bush was Gov. of Fla., and he made everyone get a real allegorical oracle 13 hrs ago #49

I had to show my birth certificate when I got a Real ID. tetedur 14 hrs ago #33

Had to present my birth certificate, my marriage certificate (my surname had changed), had to allegorical oracle 13 hrs ago #56

Pretty soon those agents of Trump's Fascist Agenda will have access to data bases thanx to the Botany 15 hrs ago #5

That's terrifying jmbar2 13 hrs ago #36

Gestapo gonna do... appmanga 15 hrs ago #6

Glory to Arstotzka! Lancero 15 hrs ago #7

Gestapo tactics designed to instill fear CanonRay 15 hrs ago #8

REPUBLICAN Gestapo. Call them what they are!! n/t Cheezoholic 14 hrs ago #30

Why are they wearing masks? So fuggin fascist (R) BoRaGard 15 hrs ago #9

I thought the same thing. underpants 13 hrs ago #39

You'd think they would be proud of their thuggery! Show your face and your steel teeth. erronis 13 hrs ago #45

I didn't know law enforcement could wear a mask, do the display a badge number and name? doc03 9 hrs ago #79

These nazi thugs will the among the first scumbags we hunt down when this is finally over. Basso8vb 15 hrs ago #12

Only two things matter: They don't need a warrant... dchill 14 hrs ago #14

Sounds better in the original German Hekate 14 hrs ago #16

Papieren, bitte? n/t markpkessinger 13 hrs ago #67

I'm old enough to remember when the GOP Old Crank 14 hrs ago #17

When was that? IronLionZion 14 hrs ago #22

In the 1960s-70s Old Crank 14 hrs ago #26

When I was growing up DENVERPOPS 14 hrs ago #24

My era also. Old Crank 14 hrs ago #28

LOL DENVERPOPS 14 hrs ago #31

Latter-Day Highwaymen .. masked and armed. Bo Zarts 14 hrs ago #23

I guess everyone missed DENVERPOPS 14 hrs ago #29

Eric Prince's Blackwater is alive and well .. by other names. Bo Zarts 13 hrs ago #41

Aren't he and his sister DENVERPOPS 13 hrs ago #48

Not denying the REPUBLICAN Gestapo would be doing this, especially in DC which has stricter ID requirements Cheezoholic 14 hrs ago #32

Marisa is the real deal obamanut2012 13 hrs ago #42

Thanx!! n/t Cheezoholic 13 hrs ago #43

This is third world country stuff. Especially because they're ashamed to show their faces. Vinca 14 hrs ago #34

They aren't ashamed of shit orangecrush 12 hrs ago #74

Yes, land of the free, republican style. republianmushroom 13 hrs ago #37

Fuck that. relayerbob 13 hrs ago #47

Gestapo Ferrets are Cool 13 hrs ago #53

Large Hispanic Community bpj62 13 hrs ago #55

It is in the 100-MILE BORDER ENFORCEMENT ZONE LiberalArkie 13 hrs ago #57

ICE has the authority to operate within 100 miles of a border jgmiller 13 hrs ago #58

The more they get away with, the more acceptable it becomes. Buddyzbuddy 13 hrs ago #59

Is that even legal? I don't think it is. BigDemVoter 13 hrs ago #60

How is this legal? pandr32 13 hrs ago #62

Disgusting. Passages 13 hrs ago #63

is Real ID sufficient or do I need to carry passport now? AlexSFCA 13 hrs ago #64

Makes me wonder if Trump/ICE are now trafficking humans to be slaves in other countries' prisons. Attilatheblond 13 hrs ago #65

Know your rights - 100 Mile Border Zone HAB911 13 hrs ago #66

How are we to know who these people are? No identification, all in black and masks and they say they Deuxcents 9 hrs ago #77

Pardoned MAGAts perhaps? MorbidButterflyTat 8 hrs ago #86

That's just it..we don't know. What if there are real criminals having us think they're govt officials? Deuxcents 7 hrs ago #88

As I understand it angrychair 13 hrs ago #69

Break the ICE angrychair 12 hrs ago #70

Doesn't the Constitution azureblue 12 hrs ago #71

WTAF???? orangecrush 12 hrs ago #72

ACLU: Know Your Rights 100 Mile Border Zone IronLionZion 12 hrs ago #73

Let's see some I.D. ... YOU FIRST. Qutzupalotl 9 hrs ago #75

Definitely. MorbidButterflyTat 8 hrs ago #84

I'm not a lawyer. i was a cathar... 9 hrs ago #78

Where are the people mobilizing to fuck with them? FirstLight 8 hrs ago #81

Hm. MorbidButterflyTat 8 hrs ago #83