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In reply to the discussion: Marisa Kabas: ICE stopping cars in DC and asking for papers [View all]
AlexSFCA
(6,319 posts)64. is Real ID sufficient or do I need to carry passport now?
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Seems improbable that they could stop everybody -- lost tourists, people passing
allegorical oracle
May 2025
#44
That went out in 1968 with Terry v Ohio, when the Court invented "detention" out of whole cloth.
rsdsharp
May 2025
#68
Then in 1990 Michigan v. Sitz allowed "minimal" intrusion roadblocks for DUI prevention
Ponietz
May 2025
#76
And, of course, Pennsylvania v. Mimms, which allows them to order you out of the car for "officer safety."
rsdsharp
May 2025
#85
Probably not a "Real-ID" as that is now required for federal buildings and such. So just a regular DL is not good
LiberalArkie
May 2025
#52
Papers please is really a world wide thing and has been for decades. If stopped by police anywhere in the world they
LiberalArkie
May 2025
#82
Bet they wave through white people, especially those driving a late-model car. They're
allegorical oracle
May 2025
#46
RIGHT !! Let's say it is lawful who tf wants to be part of an organization that's got to cover their faces in their own
uponit7771
May 2025
#10
Yep, literally the Nazis cleared the jails of racist to shoot Jews and socialist in the beginning but
uponit7771
May 2025
#50
Can't recall the year, but Jeb Bush was Gov. of Fla., and he made everyone get a real
allegorical oracle
May 2025
#49
Had to present my birth certificate, my marriage certificate (my surname had changed), had to
allegorical oracle
May 2025
#56
Pretty soon those agents of Trump's Fascist Agenda will have access to data bases thanx to the
Botany
May 2025
#5
You'd think they would be proud of their thuggery! Show your face and your steel teeth.
erronis
May 2025
#45
I didn't know law enforcement could wear a mask, do the display a badge number and name?
doc03
May 2025
#79
These nazi thugs will the among the first scumbags we hunt down when this is finally over.
Basso8vb
May 2025
#12
Not denying the REPUBLICAN Gestapo would be doing this, especially in DC which has stricter ID requirements
Cheezoholic
May 2025
#32
This is third world country stuff. Especially because they're ashamed to show their faces.
Vinca
May 2025
#34
Makes me wonder if Trump/ICE are now trafficking humans to be slaves in other countries' prisons.
Attilatheblond
May 2025
#65
How are we to know who these people are? No identification, all in black and masks and they say they
Deuxcents
May 2025
#77
That's just it..we don't know. What if there are real criminals having us think they're govt officials?
Deuxcents
May 2025
#88