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TommyT139

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80. That's what I was thinking.

Fri May 9, 2025, 05:14 PM

May 9

It's after the date for Real ID implementation. Some states issue driver's licenses to non-citizens.

Real ID was always about this sort of thing: "papers please," and denying the vote to large numbers of people.

It used to be part of the definition of the United States, that we didn't need permission to travel within our own borders. That was a Russian thing.

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Marisa Kabas: ICE stopping cars in DC and asking for papers [View all] Dennis Donovan May 9 OP

What "papers" Prairie Gates May 9 #1

They have detained US citizens, claiming driver's license wasn't enough IronLionZion May 9 #20

I refuse to carry my passport for a trip to the grocery store! Lonestarblue May 9 #38

Seems improbable that they could stop everybody -- lost tourists, people passing allegorical oracle May 9 #44

it's not legal barbtries May 9 #61

That went out in 1968 with Terry v Ohio, when the Court invented "detention" out of whole cloth. rsdsharp May 9 #68

Then in 1990 Michigan v. Sitz allowed "minimal" intrusion roadblocks for DUI prevention Ponietz May 9 #76

And, of course, Pennsylvania v. Mimms, which allows them to order you out of the car for "officer safety." rsdsharp May 9 #85

Probably not a "Real-ID" as that is now required for federal buildings and such. So just a regular DL is not good LiberalArkie May 9 #52

That's what I was thinking. TommyT139 May 9 #80

Papers please is really a world wide thing and has been for decades. If stopped by police anywhere in the world they LiberalArkie May 9 #82

"I'm told" HereForTheParty May 10 #90

Sounds targeted to me. Wonder who they were really after? flying_wahini May 9 #2

They appear to be targeting democratic party strongholds and states. oldmanlynn May 9 #27

Bet they wave through white people, especially those driving a late-model car. They're allegorical oracle May 9 #46

If this is all lawful... FalloutShelter May 9 #3

RIGHT !! Let's say it is lawful who tf wants to be part of an organization that's got to cover their faces in their own uponit7771 May 9 #10

Nazi punkass, lawless, knuckledraggers? Magoo48 May 9 #19

Yep, literally the Nazis cleared the jails of racist to shoot Jews and socialist in the beginning but uponit7771 May 9 #50

Look at the beer guts on these slobs! pdxflyboy May 9 #35

I wouldn't put it past MAGA to do this very thing uponit7771 May 9 #51

Agree. MorbidButterflyTat May 9 #87

I don't think sobriety check points are actually legal any more DENVERPOPS May 9 #18

You are not required topresent ID without cause as far as I know. Cheezoholic May 9 #54

To my knowledge... PCIntern May 9 #4

Military ID is considered a Real ID. So Dependants, Retirees, and Reservists... haele May 9 #11

Does Real ID prove citizenship? PCIntern May 9 #13

RealID is proof of legal residency. haele May 9 #15

And a non-compliant state ID does not mean the holder is here illegally. Ms. Toad May 9 #21

My CA Driver's License doesn't have the RealID embed on it. haele May 9 #25

Yup. Ms. Toad May 9 #40

Can't recall the year, but Jeb Bush was Gov. of Fla., and he made everyone get a real allegorical oracle May 9 #49

I had to show my birth certificate when I got a Real ID. tetedur May 9 #33

Had to present my birth certificate, my marriage certificate (my surname had changed), had to allegorical oracle May 9 #56

Pretty soon those agents of Trump's Fascist Agenda will have access to data bases thanx to the Botany May 9 #5

That's terrifying jmbar2 May 9 #36

Gestapo gonna do... appmanga May 9 #6

Glory to Arstotzka! Lancero May 9 #7

Gestapo tactics designed to instill fear CanonRay May 9 #8

REPUBLICAN Gestapo. Call them what they are!! n/t Cheezoholic May 9 #30

Why are they wearing masks? So fuggin fascist (R) BoRaGard May 9 #9

I thought the same thing. underpants May 9 #39

You'd think they would be proud of their thuggery! Show your face and your steel teeth. erronis May 9 #45

I didn't know law enforcement could wear a mask, do the display a badge number and name? doc03 May 9 #79

These nazi thugs will the among the first scumbags we hunt down when this is finally over. Basso8vb May 9 #12

Only two things matter: They don't need a warrant... dchill May 9 #14

Sounds better in the original German Hekate May 9 #16

Papieren, bitte? n/t markpkessinger May 9 #67

I'm old enough to remember when the GOP Old Crank May 9 #17

When was that? IronLionZion May 9 #22

In the 1960s-70s Old Crank May 9 #26

When I was growing up DENVERPOPS May 9 #24

My era also. Old Crank May 9 #28

LOL DENVERPOPS May 9 #31

Latter-Day Highwaymen .. masked and armed. Bo Zarts May 9 #23

I guess everyone missed DENVERPOPS May 9 #29

Eric Prince's Blackwater is alive and well .. by other names. Bo Zarts May 9 #41

Aren't he and his sister DENVERPOPS May 9 #48

Not denying the REPUBLICAN Gestapo would be doing this, especially in DC which has stricter ID requirements Cheezoholic May 9 #32

Marisa is the real deal obamanut2012 May 9 #42

Thanx!! n/t Cheezoholic May 9 #43

This is third world country stuff. Especially because they're ashamed to show their faces. Vinca May 9 #34

They aren't ashamed of shit orangecrush May 9 #74

Yes, land of the free, republican style. republianmushroom May 9 #37

Fuck that. relayerbob May 9 #47

Gestapo Ferrets are Cool May 9 #53

Large Hispanic Community bpj62 May 9 #55

It is in the 100-MILE BORDER ENFORCEMENT ZONE LiberalArkie May 9 #57

ICE has the authority to operate within 100 miles of a border jgmiller May 9 #58

The more they get away with, the more acceptable it becomes. Buddyzbuddy May 9 #59

Is that even legal? I don't think it is. BigDemVoter May 9 #60

How is this legal? pandr32 May 9 #62

Disgusting. Passages May 9 #63

is Real ID sufficient or do I need to carry passport now? AlexSFCA May 9 #64

Makes me wonder if Trump/ICE are now trafficking humans to be slaves in other countries' prisons. Attilatheblond May 9 #65

Know your rights - 100 Mile Border Zone HAB911 May 9 #66

How are we to know who these people are? No identification, all in black and masks and they say they Deuxcents May 9 #77

Pardoned MAGAts perhaps? MorbidButterflyTat May 9 #86

That's just it..we don't know. What if there are real criminals having us think they're govt officials? Deuxcents May 9 #88

Qualified impunity, er, immunity, means no remedy exists when those rights are violated Ponietz May 10 #89

As I understand it angrychair May 9 #69

Break the ICE angrychair May 9 #70

Doesn't the Constitution azureblue May 9 #71

WTAF???? orangecrush May 9 #72

ACLU: Know Your Rights 100 Mile Border Zone IronLionZion May 9 #73

Let's see some I.D. ... YOU FIRST. Qutzupalotl May 9 #75

Definitely. MorbidButterflyTat May 9 #84

I'm not a lawyer. i was a cathar... May 9 #78

Where are the people mobilizing to fuck with them? FirstLight May 9 #81

Hm. MorbidButterflyTat May 9 #83