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Efilroft Sul

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17. If secession is a thought to be entertained by blue states, then its notion needs to be flipped on its head.
Fri Jul 11, 2025, 09:25 AM
Jul 11

Last edited Fri Jul 11, 2025, 10:27 AM - Edit history (1)

What I mean is that the blue states did not sign up for an Article II executive branch taking over Article I legislative powers by a complicit Republican Congress or marching roughshod over Article III federal courts by an also-complicit Supreme Court that articulated immunity to the executive.

The blue states also did not join the Union for rule by decree, either by executive orders or some late-night poop Truth. They additionally are against right-wing sophistry about who is or who is not a birthright citizen according to the Fourteenth Amendment, a secret police seizing people just trying to go to work or church, the betrayal of our LGBTQ brothers and sisters, and the reckless and utter destruction of the finest pillars of government and academia.

The blue states want to save all that is good about the rule of law, institutional knowledge, life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. They are trying to preserve the Union. Opposing them are Donald Trump and his MAGA Republican toadies, who have walked away from — no, attacked — everything good that is the American way of life. They are the secessionists.

Flip the script and you will find your moral cause.

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Democrats, FFS, STOP ASKING [View all] orangecrush Jul 11 OP
Psychopaths don't stop until they are stopped. Irish_Dem Jul 11 #1
... and 5 year olds Danascot Jul 11 #2
Have anything more specific in mind for how to stop them? Dems have no political power. LymphocyteLover Jul 11 #3
4 months ago I posted dozens of threads for what they should do. gab13by13 Jul 11 #5
do you seriously think town halls would have "stopped" them? onenote Jul 11 #12
There were town halls. mzmolly Jul 11 #22
Dems did townhalls. There have been MASSIVE protests. There's no real way to reach more people. Too many people are in LymphocyteLover Jul 11 #28
Odd, Redcons seem to have about the same level of... OhioBack2Blue Jul 11 #29
it's easier to kick butt when you are willing to be total fascists and break the law and wreck people's lives LymphocyteLover Jul 11 #30
They unquestionably are the DENVERPOPS Jul 11 #32
Well, some of us Hornedfrog2000 Jul 11 #31
Just my humble opinion, no link by the way, gab13by13 Jul 11 #4
Post removed Post removed Jul 11 #6
Somehow we have to get through to the people in the bubble MadameButterfly Jul 11 #7
See post #5. gab13by13 Jul 11 #10
i agree with post #5 MadameButterfly Jul 11 #18
Secede IcyPeas Jul 11 #8
i've heard this called purple_haze Jul 11 #9
Check out US history in the early 1860s. Iggo Jul 11 #13
if thats the case purple_haze Jul 11 #14
The Civil War was fought over secession ITAL Jul 11 #11
If secession is a thought to be entertained by blue states, then its notion needs to be flipped on its head. Efilroft Sul Jul 11 #17
All true but they have the military MadameButterfly Jul 11 #23
Flipping the script on who really seceded from America is the initial idea. Efilroft Sul Jul 11 #24
Wait! Did Chuck send yet another "strongly worded" letter via parcel post? Karyn the Great Jul 11 #15
My posts on DU are making a difference orangecrush Jul 11 #27
Democrats aren't good at evil, looks like we don't know how to interact with it. uponit7771 Jul 11 #16
Two Democratic presidents defeated full blown facism orangecrush Jul 11 #19
At the time Democrats had a media with integrity. mzmolly Jul 11 #21
True, progressive politicians are pretty good at tearing down evil uponit7771 Jul 11 #26
That was our job. If we don't elect Democrats mzmolly Jul 11 #20
What does this mean? MorbidButterflyTat Jul 11 #25
Usual "Democrats don't fighting" bash -- slap up a strongly worded meme from somewhere and see betsuni Jul 12 #34
Title of OP and the quote about evil people -- what's that got to do with the Democratic Party? betsuni Jul 12 #33
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