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AloeVera

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34. That's a very "questionable" argument.

Sun Jul 13, 2025, 02:44 PM

Jul 13

In response to a poster who said they find it hard to continue to support ISRAEL, you say that nobody here supported NETANYAHU. And asking for proof that they did.

Where is the logic, or the good faith?

This "argument" irks me because I see the intent behind it and it only serves to further entrench Israel's impunity. It's that impunity, decades-long but especially virulent during this war on Gaza's kids and civilians, that has led to the unspeakable suffering in Gaza for nearly two years.

As a corollary of course, it's a face-saving device - an attempt at impunity, if you will - for Israel's defenders now that they've run out of excuses for Israel's cruel and lawless behaviour. They can now just say oh no, I never supported this, I despise Netanyahu! But the facts speak for themselves. They not only supported it, they excused and enabled it and worked very hard at it too.

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Children fetching water killed in Israeli strike in Gaza, emergency officials say [View all] David__77 Jul 13 OP

Nothing but claudette Jul 13 #1

Nice going, Israel Jilly_in_VA Jul 13 #2

I'm sure we'll find out they were Hamas terrorists, right? ms liberty Jul 13 #3

We are in "nits make lice" territory Simeon Salus Jul 13 #4

SSDD malaise Jul 13 #5

Yep, these continued war crimes happen daily now. Nothing but ethnic cleansing. brush Jul 13 #51

Stop the madness BoRaGard Jul 13 #6

Has the DU become desensitized to this? erodriguez Jul 13 #7

Yes iemanja Jul 13 #12

What kind of response are you looking for? Mossfern Jul 13 #18

Let's compare iemanja Jul 13 #25

As I said, Mossfern Jul 13 #26

Kierkegaard said.... AloeVera Jul 13 #27

Beautiful quote Mossfern Jul 13 #28

That's a very "questionable" argument. AloeVera Jul 13 #34

You are attributing people's beliefs Mossfern Jul 13 #36

The "actions of the government" include the war on Gaza. AloeVera Jul 13 #39

... and the hostages? Mossfern Jul 13 #41

It's pretty obvious Netanyahu doesn't much care about the hostages... brush Jul 13 #52

That is not what I have observed iemanja Jul 13 #32

Why don't you tell us your views iemanja Jul 13 #35

I'm appalled by that. Mossfern Jul 13 #37

Good for you! iemanja Jul 13 #38

Whew! I can breath freely Mossfern Jul 13 #40

" Again, I have not seen defense of Netanyahu anywhere on DU. " Israeli Jul 15 #59

wow.. so failure to respond to a post B.See Jul 13 #48

Apparently some people do Mossfern Jul 13 #49

When you say nothing... Rigpa108 Jul 14 #55

Yes, many seem more focused on the fascist takeover of the US rather than Gaza. BannonsLiver Jul 13 #53

Its all connected. The fascism here helps the genocide there. erodriguez Jul 14 #56

Righhhht BannonsLiver Jul 14 #58

So you don't agree? erodriguez Jul 15 #60

A new world order....simply look the other way democrank Jul 13 #8

The only people whose lives Trump and Netanyahu value are their own. Lonestarblue Jul 13 #11

U S A . everyone chant twodogsbarking Jul 13 #9

Thus Netanyahu's years-long campaign of deliberate civilian murder continues. Orrex Jul 13 #10

New euphemism for murder: "technical error". AloeVera Jul 13 #13

The ol Hornedfrog2000 Jul 13 #15

My MAGA, Jewish in-laws are all in ybbor Jul 13 #14

Well, you could be Hornedfrog2000 Jul 13 #16

These situations make it hard to support israel. oldmanlynn Jul 13 #17

I have not seen Mossfern Jul 13 #19

It is a system not a person. David__77 Jul 13 #23

"Netanyahu" Mossfern Jul 13 #29

Turning "Israel" into "Netanyahu" is an interesting tactic. AloeVera Jul 13 #30

Then you agree that Mossfern Jul 13 #31

There's distinction between state and people; e.g., when people say "Russia" they might not be referring to babies. David__77 Jul 13 #33

Why would I subscribe to the notion of collective guilt/punishment? AloeVera Jul 13 #42

Then why Mossfern Jul 13 #44

Do you really not see why? AloeVera Jul 13 #45

OK then I get you Mossfern Jul 13 #47

Thank you. It's good to be "got"! AloeVera Jul 13 #50

No cause justifies the deaths of innocent people. Albert Camus Ping Tung Jul 13 #20

Bibi's plan is to keep killing them until Egypt gives in and lets them in as refugees IronLionZion Jul 13 #21

Post removed Post removed Jul 13 #22

When Rodney King was being beaten, no one started filming before the beating started. David__77 Jul 13 #24

Hideous action! electric_blue68 Jul 13 #43

Doesn't count. They started it. Damn kids. Iggo Jul 13 #46

Kids, yeah. That's why they're not even allowed to go into the sea. AloeVera Jul 14 #57

Hard to keep track of the daily Palestinian death toll - "killed at least 30 people on Sunday, including six children.." cliffside Jul 14 #54