General Discussion

During the course of discussions here, H20Man brought up an interesting item outside the sex aspect which is that Epstein was a financial adviser to Trump of sorts and was advising him about that Florida home sale to a Russian that looks like an obvious oligarch money laundering scheme, so that could also be a concern of his wrt what is in the file.

FWIW Dersh and Virginia Giuffre reached a settlement of their mutual defamation cases in 2022, in which no money changing hands, and Giuffre stipulating that due to the stress she was under at the time, she "may" have gotten him confused with someone else.

The evidence in the Andrew case is sorta thin (and sadly tawdry in a way I don't want to go into here, suffice to say it does not flatter VG, but given she was only 17 and what she was going thru, hard to hold against her too much), but decently convincing. The thing about this one though is that Maxwell, Epstein and Andrew were CLOSE, and VG was close with Epstein and Maxwell. That one I think well could have happened, but because of the closeness of the parties, I don't know if it can be extrapolated from too much, like to conclude for sure that Epstein was doing this sort of 'sharing' on the regular, and/or with others of the victims. Also 17 is past age of consent in the UK, so what Andrew did was not technically illegal. According to her, though, Epstein paid her 10K for sleeping with Andrew, which is definitely NOT legal.

Anyways, that RWNJ conspiracy theory I saw so many tweets and other SM posts about 2021-2024 led me to research the actual evidence for 'the ring' existing years ago, in hopes of defending Biden admins seeming "inaction" about the supposed "client list" (and Clinton, and Richardson) and what I found (and argued with these idiots at the time) was basically what you just said. The evidence for a pedophile ring of rich and powerful was actually mostly a CT, not really backed by strong evidence at all.

A lot of people, on both sides of the aisle, are really attached to it, though