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In reply to the discussion: Didn't Trump also recruit girls for Epstein, like Maxwell did? [View all]pat_k
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I have to constantly remind myself that leaving space for people to be wrong also leaves space for them to evolve. No forgiveness in advance mind you. When you are under attack, you have no choice but to do everything you are able to turn back the attack. But self-defense doesn't necessitate the sort of shaming that pushes people further into their crazy corner.
I find Braver Angels (BA) events to be helpful. The "reds" that attend events are a self-selected group that is interested in taking a shot at dialog with "blues," so it doesn't provide much practice in skills needed to have a genuine dialog with someone who is deeply lost in the cult-think, but it does help me soften the edges of my anger at those lost individuals.
Here are a few upcoming events from the latest BA newsletter:
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100220489909
I find that it is nearly impossible for me to find compassion for "them" in the vacuum of my own head and information bubble. I can only begin to imagine connecting as human beings with "hard core" MAGA folk through actual interactions with folk that aren't so hard core -- interactions that are driven by genuine curiosity, not "gotcha" flinging of conclusions back and forth. I find the motivation to make the attempts in an understanding that doing so is a very important part of the work of redeeming our national soul.
Sarah McBride (1st trans U.S. Congressperson) also discussed our need to extend a little grace in an interview shortly after she was sworn in.
We are shooting ourselves in the foot as people who believe in progress when we create no incentive for people to grow because they perceive they will be permanently guilty for having been wrong. We create no space for them to grow by extending no grace for them to walk there...
One of the reasons you see people pushed into their respective corners -- you say something that's deemed problematic. And you are immediately hounded by one side and immediately embraced by the other side. Human nature is -- when faced with that degree of extreme binary reactions is to go to the people who are validating you instantaneously. So we unintentionally push people further and further into their own corners and into their negative opinion by responding with a degree of condemnation and vitriol that creates no incentive or space for them to grow...
NVC (Marshall Rosenberg's non-violent communication) skills can also be useful. It's not specifically designed for communicating with cult adherents or across ideological divides, but the principles are powerful in all sorts of conflict resolution situations. There are NVC practice groups online and in some locations, in person.
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