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112. We came over to Germany the year before Trump 1

Sun Jul 20, 2025, 03:55 PM

19 hrs ago

My wife worked for a Swiss company in Munich.
Health insurance was easy and quite inexpensive. The tax treaty works reasonably well for us. Germany gets the first bite then, if it is lower than what the US tax would be we don't pay US tax. Your mileage will vary. Our tax lawyer here does excellent work at minimizing German tax.

My health insurance, government plan, is about 250 per month.

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