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AloeVera

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66. The mental health of these societies is not the point right now.
Mon Jul 21, 2025, 09:59 AM
Yesterday

If it were, you could excuse the actions of October 7th. After all, in 2009 or so, it was found that Gaza's children had the highest level of PTSD in the world. Some of these children, especially the orphans, grew up to participate in October 7th. But that is an excuse because nothing justifies Oct 7th, right? Not the 17-year blockade, not the land theft in the WB, not the fact that they were subjected to daily violence and brutality on and on. Nothing, right?

I don't know what the settlers excuse is except they covet Palestinian lands because "God gave it to them" - but they sure are sick people.

The point right now is to stop the daily killing, the ethnic cleansing plan already being implemented, the starvation and destruction. Yesterday 67 starving people were shot and shelled to death by the "felt threatened" IDF, hundreds injured, as they looted an aid truck of flour. Why did they do that? Israel won't let in nearly enough food. 19 people including children DIED of starvation in the last day. The IPCC warns that 22% of Gaza's population is facing CATASTROPHIC levels of hunger. That is the stage at which people stop dropping dead. Only in a genocide does this happen. It is man-made entirely and it's the height of evil.

I don't know about you, but all this fills me with disgust, outrage and infinite sorrow for these people. So please I don't want to hear both-sides-ism. There is only one side committing this evil for nearly 2 years now and as long as we're still engaged in both-sides-ism, and collective guilt/complicity moral lapses, it won't stop.

But if you think all of Israeli society is responsible for the actions of the settlers, just as you imply all Palestinians are responsible for Hamas - does that mean that you would also "understand" why Palestinians would go on a rampage killing all Israeli civilians they could on Oct. 7th? Obviously they too thought all Israelis were "complicit" in what they have suffered for 75 years... Plus PTSD!!

Of course not. Because you can clearly see murdering Israeli civilians for revenge is wrong. Yet you are still engaging in explaining why all Palestinians are complicit, your point being - whether you realize it or not - to excuse or rationalize THEIR unjust killing for revenge.

What I've seen revealed consistently from Israel's defenders and supporters is a very telling double standard where Palestinian lives are not valued equally to Israeli lives. If they were, there would be no excuses or justifications for Israel's brutality towards them.

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At this point I think a lot of people are more focused on the fascist takeover of their own country. BannonsLiver Sunday #1
I think most Americans Pototan Sunday #2
If they could, a fascist takeover of our own country wouldn't be occurring in the first place. W_HAMILTON Sunday #7
That's incorrect. muriel_volestrangler Yesterday #64
lol all evidence to the contrary. BannonsLiver Sunday #27
"Most" ?? NO--- possibly only about 50 percent Jack Valentino Sunday #32
Isn't about "50%" Pototan Yesterday #36
TBH, I am struggling every damn day.... Happy Hoosier 6 hrs ago #78
Agreed JustAnotherGen Yesterday #53
I think the vast majority of Americans have some opinion on Gaza Polybius Sunday #3
Americans did seem to have a strong, priority position Pototan Sunday #4
Funny how that all died out after tsf won. sheshe2 Sunday #11
Has anyone heard a peep from Jill Stein? Pototan Sunday #12
She crawled back under her rock from whence she came. sheshe2 Sunday #15
fyi Be Leave On Yesterday #38
Could you link me to any Pototan Yesterday #40
Yes, what a surprise. BannonsLiver Sunday #28
IKR!? sheshe2 Sunday #31
Right? mcar Yesterday #58
It's almost as if a switch was flipped to the off position. sheshe2 Yesterday #59
Oh, but Jill Stein is posting both sider shite on Musk's hellsite mcar Yesterday #62
Almost like it was manufactured outrage.... NT Happy Hoosier 6 hrs ago #79
Trump has given us much else to worry about. Intractable Sunday #14
I'm guessing that you markodochartaigh Yesterday #34
Over on X - lots of Americans have it a top priority womanofthehills Yesterday #57
Kicked out of college. Kid Berwyn Sunday #5
The press should ask the questions Pototan Sunday #9
You asked about Jill Stein - I just saw some of her X posts womanofthehills Sunday #20
I don't see Trump's name in these tweets Pototan Sunday #30
Dear God, she's using Gaza to push her "both sides are the same" bullshit. SunSeeker Yesterday #33
she's done enough damage, now just rubbing it in LymphocyteLover Yesterday #35
Atrocities would be the correct term B.See Sunday #6
Agreed Pototan Sunday #10
So what would it take to actually get to that point of indefensibility, if we're not already there yet? TheRickles Yesterday #52
The point of my comment ISN'T B.See 23 hrs ago #69
Got it - apologies for misunderstanding your comment. TheRickles 23 hrs ago #70
Being silenced by Trump and Netanyahu. Initech Sunday #8
Palestine attacked Israelis civilians. Now they are stuck Melon Sunday #13
How many children need to be murdered Pototan Sunday #16
I don't think it is revenge at this point Ken Dayenu Sunday #18
In the meantime Pototan Sunday #26
If that is where Hamas is hiding Ken Dayenu Yesterday #43
Exactly. Hamas is responsible for putting civilians in harm's way. Oopsie Daisy Yesterday #49
"Palestine" did not attack Israeli civilians. AloeVera Sunday #19
Sure it did. October 7, 2023. They killed, raped, tortured Melon Sunday #22
Never mind. Have a nice evening. AloeVera Sunday #24
Perhaps you should ready some of the forensics. sheshe2 Yesterday #41
"Five men" UpInArms 6 hrs ago #76
That was Hamas BlueSpot Sunday #29
I agree it's gone to far. But Hamas is the Palestinian people. Since 2007 Melon Yesterday #39
This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Yesterday #46
I agree it's gone too far as well Ken Dayenu Yesterday #47
No. For a start, over half of Palestinians in the occupied territories live in the West Bank, not Gaza muriel_volestrangler Yesterday #67
Post removed Post removed 22 hrs ago #71
If Palestinians are not responsible for Hamas Ken Dayenu Yesterday #55
The mental health of these societies is not the point right now. AloeVera Yesterday #66
I think I do understand why Palestinians would go on a rampage (or at least I can try) Ken Dayenu Yesterday #68
I nearly fell off my chair reading the title of your post (in a good way)! AloeVera 15 hrs ago #73
Understanding Ken Dayenu 7 hrs ago #75
What a fucking heartless thing to say. Condoning war crimes. Its shameful erodriguez Sunday #23
So was 10/07. sheshe2 Yesterday #42
So the systemic starvation and collective punishment of innocent people are justified? erodriguez Yesterday #45
I did not say that, now did I. sheshe2 Yesterday #60
And that's a permanent blank check for Bibi's deliberate campaign of civilian murder, is it? Orrex Sunday #25
It is difficult to be a Jew right now Ken Dayenu Yesterday #51
I would imagine that it's difficult to be a Palestinian, too. Orrex Yesterday #61
Absolutely difficult to be a Palestinian right now Ken Dayenu Yesterday #65
Really? atreides1 Yesterday #56
If there is no "land called Palestine" Mossfern 48 min ago #82
Well, there's plenty of outrage over Gaza right here. Intractable Sunday #17
One consequence of Gaza outrage in the US is shitting in the White House Martin Eden Sunday #21
America voted for Trump Ken Dayenu Yesterday #48
"Americans got exactly what they wanted" Martin Eden Yesterday #50
Aw man, the whole thing is just heartbreaking. calimary Yesterday #37
K&R spanone Yesterday #44
I feel like there's no way for that outrage to get through. If we had elected Kamala, she could have done Scrivener7 Yesterday #54
buried under anti-semitism? WhiteTara Yesterday #63
The rage burned out raging against the Biden Admin's inability to control Israel's war. maxsolomon 22 hrs ago #72
Or maybe they know they'll be doxxed, intimidated, kicked out of college, jailed, deported, lose their jobs? AloeVera 15 hrs ago #74
JVP and WOL aren't in college maxsolomon 2 hrs ago #80
Yeah, sure... AloeVera 1 hr ago #81
Right now, I'm wondering.... Happy Hoosier 6 hrs ago #77
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