General Discussion

No wonder its so much worse than what I thought. Can you enlighten me on if water is wet? Inquiring and supposedly stupid people like me want to know. I do have another question and an important one, I will forgive that you failed to address the IDF soldiers saying they were targeting civilians because of your amazing clarification that in war people die, I'm sure you decided that I needed to know that fact as I obviously was ignorant of it, what is Israels NCV used in Gaza and what are modern western nations NCV? I do have one little tid bit that may sound crazy to some but big ol evil Russia has killed 13,580 civilian since February 24, 2022 in Ukraine while according to Bibi half of the 60,000 dead in Gaza are civilians. Lets see, 60,000 divided by 2 = using my fingers and toes, gonna take me a moment, about 30,000 dead civilians in Gaza. Wow, that's over double the amount Russia killed. When did Israel attack Gaza, wasnt that in November of 2023?
So,
In less than 2 years Israel has killed 30,000 civilians.
In over 3 years Russia has killed 13,580 civilians.
Of course you cant compare the two can you? One is fought in open country and the other in a city? Of course there would be more "collateral" deaths.
One of these is Gaza and one is Ukraine. Which is which


Population of Ukraine 45 million.
Population of Gaza 2.1 million.
If only there was some more information that could help us.

The bombing of Gaza has also been much more severe than the most intense periods of the US-led air campaign in Mosul in Iraq in 2016, when roughly 600 munitions were dropped in a week, while the tonnage of explosives expended during the first week of bombardment is higher than one year’s use by the USA in Afghanistan.

This was by 6 December of 2023.

Whilst the number of targets struck is consistent with IAF updates, the estimate for the tonnage of bombs would mean an average of more than 2 tonnes of bombs per target which is higher than estimates based on a range of other sources. EHRM makes a comparison with the power of the Hiroshima nuclear bomb (equivalent to about 15,000 tonnes of TNT) and suggests that by this date Gaza had been bombarded with the equivalent of two nuclear weapons over an area of 360 square km

This was by 2 November – 26 days into the bombardment 2023
https://www.sgr.org.uk/resources/gaza-one-most-intense-bombardments-history

Jeeze, that's a lot of numbers and technical things that I (as an Idiot as to what war is really like) of course cant understand.
So I will end this asking the one question I really want from you as a expert on war telling us simple stupid people what it is like.

What is Israels NCV used in Gaza compared to modern western Militaries?

Of course you know what it is as you are so knowledgeable to tell me what war is so I as an ignorant fool would really like to know.
Thanks!