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In reply to the discussion: A DC grand jury declined to indict sandwich guy! [View all]LetMyPeopleVote
(169,519 posts)57. Deadline: Legal Blog-It matters why the grand jury in D.C. declined to indict sandwich thrower Sean Dunn
There are different ways of reading the stunning action by a Washington grand jury amid Trumps federal crackdown on the nations capital.
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We know that a grand jury in Washington refused to indict sandwich thrower Sean Dunn. But we dont necessarily know why.
Its a stunning result with serious implications no matter what motivated the rejection. Yet, what those implications are, exactly, could depend on the rationale for refusing to approve a felony charge against the man who became a folk hero in D.C. amid the Trump administrations federal crackdown in the nations capital......
But something bigger may have been at play: jury nullification. Thats when jurors believe that prosecutors have proved the technical elements of the case but, nonetheless, the jury renders a moral objection by way of a not guilty verdict (or in the case of a grand jury, a no true bill).
To put the question one way: Did grand jurors think the government did a bad job, or a bad thing?.....
Importantly, we have more than Dunns case to go on in analyzing this phenomenon. Theres the even more shocking recent failure of D.C. prosecutors to get an indictment against Sidney Reid a whopping three times. She was initially charged under the same federal assault statute as Dunn. After striking out in the grand jury, prosecutors reduced her case to a misdemeanor, which doesnt require grand jury approval.
Lets assume for a moment that grand jurors in both the Dunn and Reid cases just thought there wasnt enough proof to charge them with felonies. The known facts of both cases certainly allow for that possibility. Through that lens, the message to prosecutors is that they need to more carefully evaluate the quality of cases they bring.
But if the message is that the people of D.C. are declining to approve charges despite the evidence presented to them, thats something that should worry prosecutors even more.
Its a stunning result with serious implications no matter what motivated the rejection. Yet, what those implications are, exactly, could depend on the rationale for refusing to approve a felony charge against the man who became a folk hero in D.C. amid the Trump administrations federal crackdown in the nations capital......
But something bigger may have been at play: jury nullification. Thats when jurors believe that prosecutors have proved the technical elements of the case but, nonetheless, the jury renders a moral objection by way of a not guilty verdict (or in the case of a grand jury, a no true bill).
To put the question one way: Did grand jurors think the government did a bad job, or a bad thing?.....
Importantly, we have more than Dunns case to go on in analyzing this phenomenon. Theres the even more shocking recent failure of D.C. prosecutors to get an indictment against Sidney Reid a whopping three times. She was initially charged under the same federal assault statute as Dunn. After striking out in the grand jury, prosecutors reduced her case to a misdemeanor, which doesnt require grand jury approval.
Lets assume for a moment that grand jurors in both the Dunn and Reid cases just thought there wasnt enough proof to charge them with felonies. The known facts of both cases certainly allow for that possibility. Through that lens, the message to prosecutors is that they need to more carefully evaluate the quality of cases they bring.
But if the message is that the people of D.C. are declining to approve charges despite the evidence presented to them, thats something that should worry prosecutors even more.
I am personally voting that both cases are jury nullification and Piro needs to worry if she takes these cases to trial.
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You can't pretend ICE officers are being assaulted unless you file assault charges.
travelingthrulife
Aug 27
#9
I remember hot dog vendors throwing hot dogs at the ball park. Then the money would be handed from person to person to
twodogsbarking
Aug 27
#27
Trump's Carnival of prosecutors failed to get an indictment against sandwich throwing man.
LetMyPeopleVote
Aug 27
#39
Grand jury declines to indict man who threw a sandwich at federal officer in D.C.
LetMyPeopleVote
Aug 27
#42
Attacked by a sandwich. Meanwhile, adult rifles are killing children and you're issuing prayers.
Martin68
Aug 27
#45
Deadline: Legal Blog-It matters why the grand jury in D.C. declined to indict sandwich thrower Sean Dunn
LetMyPeopleVote
Aug 28
#57
After failing to get felony indictment, feds charge DC sandwich thrower with a misdemeanor
LetMyPeopleVote
Aug 28
#58
Deadline: Legal Blog-Grand jury rejects yet another felony indictment in Trump's D.C. crackdown
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Aug 31
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