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In reply to the discussion: Will Democrats blink once again in a shutdown standoff? [View all]bigtree
(92,415 posts)...most supported the shutdown.
A handful made that impossible.
When people question 'Democrats; they need to explain who they mean; who is responsible for the fault they're expressing.
...and let's not forget that critics of that action never bothered to account for the fact that the shut down government would be in the hands of Project 2025 architect Russell Vought.
How does an out-of-power party get the government started again after it's vacated?
...one of the courageous people who want to shut the government down might tell me what that acquiescence to Trump would result in, other than Trump getting the eviscerated government he wants without lifting a finger?
The OMB director who will be in charge of government during the shutdown, and responsible for what closes, reopens, and how, btw, has already said he wants federal workers in 'trauma'.
We want the bureaucrats to be traumatically affected, he said. When they wake up in the morning, we want them to not want to go to work because they are increasingly viewed as the villains.
Why should we enable this man to put furloughed workers through trauma?
What's the actual end game to a shutdown that protects these workers' jobs? I don't actually understand the strategy of making them suffer for our 'courageous' political plan to leave the federal government bare for the pickings.
What's the over and under on enabling THIS architect of Project 2025?
Is it really such a slam dunk to put the fate of furloughed wokers in the hands of close Trump ally and Project 2025 architect Russell Vought who recently axed Biden-era guidance on shutdown procedures from its website?
___The Washington Post reported that it's not yet clear which parts of the government would close in the event of a shutdown this weekend. The White House Office of Management and Budget (OMB), spearheaded by close Trump ally and Project 2025 architect Russell Vought, recently axed Biden-era guidance on shutdown procedures from its website, the Post reported.
In the event of a shutdown, the OMB would have wide latitude to decide what is deemed "essential" government work. With the president's blessing, OMB could determine that DOGE was doing essential government work and keep it open while other agencies did furloughs, for instance, making it easier for Musk's team of employees to access internal systems and operate freely.
https://www.newsweek.com/doge-government-shutdown-donald-trump-2044442
Put Them In Trauma: Inside MAGA Leader Russell Voughts Plans For A New Trump Agenda
A key Trump ally detailed plans to deploy the military in response to domestic unrest, defund the EPA and put career civil servants in trauma in a series of previously unreported speeches that provide a sweeping vision for a second Trump term.
In private speeches delivered in 2023 and 2024, Russell Vought, who served as Trumps director of the Office of Management and Budget, described his work crafting legal justifications so that military leaders or government lawyers would not stop Trumps executive actions.
He said the plans are a response to a Marxist takeover of the country; likened the moment to 1776 and 1860, when the country was at war or on the brink of it; and said the timing of Trumps candidacy was a gift of God.
Another priority, according to Vought, was to defund certain independent federal agencies and demonize career civil servants, which include scientists and subject matter experts. Project 2025s plan to revive Schedule F, an attempt to make it easier to fire a large swath of government workers who currently have civil service protections, aligns with Voughts vision.
We want the bureaucrats to be traumatically affected, he said. When they wake up in the morning, we want them to not want to go to work because they are increasingly viewed as the villains. We want their funding to be shut down so that the EPA cant do all of the rules against our energy industry because they have no bandwidth financially to do so.
We want to put them in trauma.
https://www.huffpost.com/entry/trump-key-ally-russell-vought-agenda_n_671fed62e4b0a55cb4cdec09
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