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Prairie Gates

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5. I honestly don't understand how shipping people to third party prisons is even legal

Reply to underpants (Original post)

Fri Sep 5, 2025, 11:18 PM

Sep 5

It seems manifestly immoral and unethical. It violates basic empathy (what would you do if a government shipped you to a country where you have no rights, no due process, no recourse, you don't speak the language, you have no connections?). How can any moral person accept this? And it's oddly supported most by people who have never left their state or even their county! The absence of basic human empathy is shocking beyond belief. Like, I seriously don't get it.

I guess Hannah Arendt was right: the first right you have to have is the right to have rights at all.

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Eswatini- now they are shipping Kilmar Abrego Garcia to Eswatini [View all] underpants Sep 5 OP

its the human trafficking in reverse. follow the money nt msongs Sep 5 #1

As random of a choice that is, I get the feeling it was decided by throwing darts at a map. Lancero Sep 5 #2

There's something about all of this that stinks of slavery Hekate Sep 5 #3

the media keeps saying it is a "deportation" to send someone to a country they are not from Takket Sep 5 #4

The more you think about it, those random bussings a few years ago to marthas vineyard and other places... SSJVegeta Sep 6 #7

I honestly don't understand how shipping people to third party prisons is even legal Prairie Gates Sep 5 #5

It's not Diraven Sep 5 #6

It isn't legal. Deportation is a civil process. Kinda like, 'We have the right to refuse anyone". Or like eviction. LeftInTX Sep 6 #26

"... Garcia's attorneys have warned he fears being persecuted... " IcyPeas Sep 6 #8

Good article. underpants Sep 6 #10

How many of us had no idea... WestMichRad Sep 6 #9

I hadn't. underpants Sep 6 #11

Thanks for putting the Wikipedia link in the OP IcyPeas Sep 6 #12

27.1%. Yikes. Their prisons must be a nightmare underpants Sep 6 #15

Trump is a fucking sadist IcyPeas Sep 6 #16

I think it's the money underpants Sep 6 #20

I have never heard of it. LeftInTX Sep 6 #24

How much is DHS/Stephen Miller paying Eswatini (and other countries) allegorical oracle Sep 6 #13

Or were there tariffs involved. A little quid pro quo. IcyPeas Sep 6 #17

Trade with Eswatini underpants Sep 6 #22

When was his trial???? spanone Sep 6 #14

The whole point of this now is to avoid going to court underpants Sep 6 #21

Most corrupt administration ever. spanone Sep 6 #23

I think it's in January. Even if not guilty, he can still be deported, unless he is granted asylum. LeftInTX Sep 6 #27

Hate to say it, but if he ever gets free again, he needs to bluestarone Sep 6 #18

If there's ever a revolt on the White House IzzaNuDay Sep 6 #19

Donald Trump and Tom Homan are the ones who need to be shipped. Initech Sep 6 #25