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H2O Man

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Sat Sep 6, 2025, 09:21 PM Sep 6

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My last OP included my thoughts on the Epstein victim who voted for the convicted sex offender. Due to there being a single response, I thought I might follow up with something that potentially gets two comments. And I hope that this might serve as a model to illustrate what I learned about social-political activism decades ago.

Onondaga Chief Paul Waterman told me that it is best to be as flexible as water in order to build the strongest current. The flow of that water adjusts to circumstances in the stream of time. One must adopt to those currents, in order to reach the desired goals. This includes understanding that someone who opposed you in the past can never be on your side in the future, or that you friend on one issue will agree with you on every important thing in the future.

The first group to consider are the “broken little people.” A significant duty that Paul's seat on the Council of Chiefs was representing those marginalized in society. This was not limited to the Haudenosaunee people. It might help for me to give two examples that are both actual and symbolic. Paul often said that the song of the smallest bird was most pleasing to the Creator's ear. When Trout Unlimited asked Paul and I endorse one of their programs, Paul said yes if they agreed to list him and I as minnows unlimited.

Paul told me that in order to help society reach higher ground, we needed to start at the bottom. The marginalized, the poor, the hungry, the homeless, the addicts, the victims, the wounded warriors. For no society gains in goodness if it sacrifices a portion of its population. Indeed, those wounded by trauma and/or addiction may become the strongest of wounded warriors. So do not be so rigid in judging others by their past that you can't see who they are today, or who they may become tomorrow.

At the same time, do not project your hopes in a way that will result in being vulnerable to your true opposition. Do not be that boy that carries the cold rattlesnake down the mountain, no matter what it says. And there are numerous rattlesnakes among the nests of maga. Let's consider two examples, shall we?

We might start with Elise Marie Stefanik, She was elected to the House as a moderate republican, before that species became extinct. Though she had begun by voting against the felon in his first term, she is ambitious in the worst sense of the term. It soon appeared she favored the brown lipstick that resulted from having her lips sealed to the felon's anal pore. Those behind the felon found her a more attractive supporter than, say, Marjorie Taylor Greene or Lauren Boebert.

The felon had nominated Elise to serve as U.N. Ambassador in January of this year. Two months later, the nomination was withdrawn, with the official excuse being that she was needed to secure her seat in the overwhelmingly republican 21st NYS congressional district. The actual cause of the withdrawal was rooted in her last meeting with the felon. After she left the meeting, the felon turned to Stephen Miller, and said, “What happened to her? She's gained fifty pounds! I don't want another Sara Hippobee!”

This became an administration giggle that got back to Elise. Because of her ambition, it might be said she has moved her lips from pore to cheek, but she still knows she cannot express her sense of victimhood and betrayal orally. Instead, she has decided to run for governor in 2026. Because I have associates in her district, I can say this move is that of a opportunist without conscience: she wants to be at least the VP candidate in 2028, and if not, the republican presidential candidate in 2032.

Elise is a prime example of a maga rattlesnake we must never trust. To quote Phil Collins: “Well if you told me you were drowning, I would not lend a hand. …. Well, I was there and I saw what you did. I saw it with my own two eyes.” Stephanik is solid septic waste the cult has dumped into the stream that causes serious disease. We need to get her ilk out of our political system.

Now let's consider MTG. She is a horrible human being, and has been most accurately described by Rep. Jasmine Crockett. I will admit that I had hoped she would get into a physical fight with Boebert when they were snarling at each other. There is nothing nice to say about this white christian nationalist who served as the felon's choir while chanting q-anon, antisemitic, white genocide conspiracy theories.

First elected to the House in 2020, she was fooled into believing she would be the felon's VP pick after he announced in 2022 he was running again. She was, in her walnut-sized brain, the perfect anti-Pence, who attracted a wider range of support than had Sarah Palin. Yet we know there was zero chance that the felon would pick anyone who could challenge his being the champion of splattering lies and delusions to his base.

Her sense of betrayal has thus merged with her ambition. She knows that while her seat is safe in 2026's mid-terms, that the felon will be reduced to a rabid lame duck. She is convinced that even now, his health is on the decline. She is aware that some around him, seeing that decline gaining momentum, are quietly positioning themselves to be the next leader. Even Steve Bannon has told associates that he should be the next president, a thought as repulsively hideous as Steve himself.

MTG has attempted to inject herself into the movement supporting the victims of Epstein and Maxwell. That does not mean that Democrats should trust her any more than a chilly rattlesnake. We lift up victims who hope to heal, not rattlesnakes seeking to bite. But we recognize that while we never unite with her, there is potential gain for Democrats so long as she openly opposes the felon on this. So we leave no opening for her hijack any leadership position of consequence, we do want her to divide the cult. The opportunity is there, and she may be a useful opportunist.

My next OP will feature a document that my associate, code name Sinn Fein, got from maga representative Gus Bilirakis regarding the Epstein – Maxwell scandal. It is important for Democrats to get maga republicans on record on this as we approach the mid-terms. Although he and his father combine to represent their district since 1983, we will coordinate with the 2026 campaign to replace him with a Democrat. It's high time we make this toad face a real challenge.
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September 6, 2025 [View all] H2O Man Sep 6 OP
Thanks, as ever Easterncedar Sep 6 #1
Thank you. H2O Man Sep 6 #2
Yes. We need to keep banging this drum. Easterncedar Sep 6 #3
Exactly. H2O Man Sep 6 #4
Just so Easterncedar Sep 6 #9
There but for the graces , we are ... dweller Sep 6 #5
Thanks! H2O Man Sep 6 #7
A really SPLENDID quote! calimary Sep 7 #16
K&R spanone Sep 6 #6
Thank you! H2O Man Sep 6 #8
KNR, with thanks. niyad Sep 6 #10
Thank you! H2O Man Sep 7 #13
Thank you for this quality essay, including the apt water analogy. yonder Sep 7 #11
Thank you! H2O Man Sep 7 #14
Stefanik was never Trump's "type." hay rick Sep 7 #12
My face hurts H2O Man Sep 7 #15
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