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(92,400 posts)...where's the prosecution for circumventing U.S. laws?
All I see here is the U.S. roughing up workers, who you have left in the abstract in your concerns expressed here.
You're arguing with the wrong person about repressive laws that criminalize work and workers but never do more than fine the employers who can well afford the amounts and impact.
The real issue here for Americans is the ACTUAL economic impact of undocumented migrants or those with restricted visas on local economies and on the U.S economy.
As I bothered to show you above, it it indisputable that undocumented migrants contribute more to the U.S. economy through their WORK and their presence here than they take anything away from Americans.
If you subtract out all of the enforcement activities and the new ICE budget, you save even more.
Isn't THAT what has been argued against undocumented immigrants - putting aside the cowardly portrayals of workers and families as criminal threats - that they are a drain on the economy?
That's an absolute lie used to support what's essentially xenophobic displays of nationalism which almost never directly affect the people hollering about the impact on jobs the most.
https://budgetmodel.wharton.upenn.edu/issues/2025/7/28/mass-deportation-of-unauthorized-immigrants-fiscal-and-economic-effects
Where's the evidence that these migrants are taking jobs that would otherwise be filled by Savannah residents, much less Georgians? You're the one arguing that Georgia, with it's 3.4% unemployment, is being denied these jobs.
Prove it, don't just make another one of the specious claims politicians have relied on to demonize these workers as they shift them out of the country. Maybe explain why the deportation of millions of migrants is said to be having a major effect on the reduced economic activity right now?
And let's not just divert from the reality that we don't have a rational or humane immigration enforcement policy right now.
And these careful discussions about what should essentially an administrative challenge instead of a militarized one don't address the brutal, dehumanizing war on immigrants being waged against ALL migrants terrorized by the orders, rhetoric, and actions of this president.
All for what? Is it the economic impact of migrants, or is it just his zeal to remove them from the country? Because it's clear that we're spending more energy and money removing them than we would enjoy by embracing and accommodating them.
Several studies, however, conclude the opposite is true — namely, undocumented immigrants often take jobs that U.S. workers do not want.
A noteworthy example is a survey the National Council of Agricultural Employers conducted during the COVID-19 pandemic to find out how many unemployed Americans would take about 100,000 seasonal farm jobs. It found that only 337 people applied. The conclusion was that labor shortages (and food shortages) were likely to persist without seasonal immigrants.
A Brookings study documents the share of unauthorized immigrant workers and U.S.-born workers in the 15 most common occupations among unauthorized immigrants. The principal finding is that unauthorized immigrants take low-paying, dangerous and otherwise less attractive jobs more frequently than both native workers and authorized immigrant workers.
https://thehill.com/opinion/immigration/5116264-trump-immigration-policy-economic-impact/
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