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Escurumbele

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142. Do we know the reason(s) why the shooter decided to kill him?

Wed Sep 10, 2025, 07:44 PM

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He seems to be a man between 60-70 years of age. Did one of his kids went to the dark side because of Mr. Kirk's vial rhetoric?

I do not condone violence, but Kirk did, always thinking that it could never happen to him because the people he wanted dead were Democrats, and those he incited were on his side.

I don't know how much hurt and damage Kirk caused with his speeches, and let us not forget that his target audience was college kids, impressionable young people, that is the place where he got shot.

I feel bad for his family, his kids, but I do hope that those who preach hate and violence learn that one cannot go through life advocating violence against people one does not like, and expect that someone who does not agree with your rhetoric may not decide it is time to stop the awful messages of violence.

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The gleefulness of some of us upon hearing of Kirk's shooting [View all] hueymahl Wednesday OP

This violence helps nothing and makes a bunch of stuff worse. Emotional people can be very short-sighted. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Wednesday #1

It's basically the fuel of republicans wolfie001 Wednesday #121

Well stated and a good point. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Wednesday #123

It is being said popsdenver Wednesday #125

Sometimes a catharsis is necessary mr715 Wednesday #2

It was time for a gigantic MAGA shit. Piss on those fucking MAGA turds. SoFlaBro Wednesday #10

Well stated! --- Thank you. QueerDuck Wednesday #89

No, thank you mr715 Wednesday #92

You sound like my husband... he thinks (wonders? theorizes?) that Trump had him killed. QueerDuck Wednesday #97

Why? mr715 Wednesday #99

They need a martyr... that's the gist of it. QueerDuck Wednesday #103

That is the worry. mr715 Wednesday #106

Fingers crossed. QueerDuck Wednesday #109

Do we know the reason(s) why the shooter decided to kill him? Escurumbele Wednesday #142

We do not know. nt mr715 Wednesday #144

the older guy I saw in handcuffs barbtries Wednesday #154

I would put nothing past those in charge in the WH. NH Ethylene Wednesday #120

first person i thought of barbtries Wednesday #155

He's president psychopath and thanks to SCOTUS, littlemissmartypants Wednesday #115

He absolutely meets the criteria for BOTH Antisocial and Narcissistic Personality Disorder. pat_k Wednesday #153

Trump loves and needs distractions. He a utilitarian and will use this Captain Zero Wednesday #102

your husband is not alone. barbtries Wednesday #152

This message was self-deleted by its author Skittles Wednesday #113

I'm with you. We don't win by acting like trumpsters. Silent Type Wednesday #3

No, but they do. mdbl Wednesday #79

I agree. When I start to become like them, PatSeg Wednesday #104

People like to say they are better than others sarisataka Wednesday #4

He was fine with gun deaths because he revered the 2nd amendment Autumn Wednesday #5

Got your amendments twisted TheProle Wednesday #16

LOL yes I did. Autumn Wednesday #23

I'm not laughing about it Katnip. Wednesday #71

You are quite right. I don't condone murder but comradebillyboy Wednesday #136

i'm not gleeful, but mopinko Wednesday #6

Thank you. multigraincracker Wednesday #60

I'm with you, Butterflylady Wednesday #143

I'm with you...... Butterflylady Wednesday #145

I think most of us are more in a "you reap what you sow" frame of mind. He didn't mind sacrificing school Vinca Wednesday #7

I hope he lived long enough to realize Dr. T Wednesday #80

from the video i saw, barbtries Wednesday #157

Telling people how they should feel is generally received poorly. I predict Maru Kitteh Wednesday #8

+1 on the Karen Blues Heron Wednesday #18

Very well said... thank you ZDU Wednesday #63

Of all my favorite responses on this thread, and there are many, mountain grammy Wednesday #77

+1 " I feel bad for his kids, but I felt bad for them before he got shot, too." pat_k Wednesday #81

Bingo. 🇺🇸🗽⚖️🗽🇺🇸 littlemissmartypants Wednesday #119

Just gave you a lil Maru Kitteh Wednesday #166

Thank you, Maru Kitteh. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Thursday #167

Does that first part apply to everything? writerJT Thursday #169

I dont see glee, I see indifference. tintinvotes Wednesday #9

+1 leftstreet Wednesday #11

Agree. I don't see glee. Lack of sadness re Kirk the person, mostly. But all here are sad about the diminishment of wiggs Wednesday #108

Indifference...exactly... agingdem Wednesday #133

Sanctimonious Lecturing ProfessorGAC Wednesday #12

Pearl clutching mr715 Wednesday #17

+1 Blues Heron Wednesday #21

This doesn't make DU look good at all. pcdb Wednesday #111

Oh Good ProfessorGAC Wednesday #114

Not a lecture, but there's a big swatch of middle-ground that will recoil at this. pcdb Wednesday #165

People can play "not nice" without killing people the way the Minnesota shooter murdered. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Wednesday #147

Being better people lost us our democracy. Irish_Dem Wednesday #13

I'm sure we can expect sternly worded rebukes from the Republican party mr715 Wednesday #20

But I don't give a good god damn what the hell the MAGA evil ones think or say. Irish_Dem Wednesday #24

Because... mr715 Wednesday #38

And these are the sentiments of a nice old lady, right? yellow dahlia Wednesday #84

I've never wished a man dead, but I've read some obituaries with great pleasure Arazi Wednesday #14

First thing I thought of... Shipwack Wednesday #100

I am completely apathetic Siwsan Wednesday #15

Maybe that's two people vanamonde Wednesday #40

You do you Happy Hoosier Wednesday #19

Thank you! I, for one, will not be shamed for celebrating. QueerDuck Wednesday #112

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The only good Nazi is a dead one. He's dead: Good!!! n/t Coventina Wednesday #35

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Whatever. I will never say Nazis shouldn't be dead. n/t Coventina Wednesday #44

Consider the negation Queso Delicioso Wednesday #48

Quite an assertion Torchlight Wednesday #58

My party does not suffer Nazis. mr715 Wednesday #62

read the comments. the vast majority of them think it's the left doing the shooting. mopinko Wednesday #66

I am not gleeful that he is dead lapfog_1 Wednesday #25

This should be a separate post and highlighted Nimble_Idea Wednesday #36

Unfortunately true EdmondDantes_ Wednesday #26

I have to agree. ... littlemissmartypants Wednesday #127

Not glee. Indifference. MAGA brought this on NewHendoLib Wednesday #27

Decades of Republicans killing gun regulation in this country have brought this on. The left has been completely Karasu Wednesday #137

Who are we to question karma? hamsterjill Wednesday #28

Glee is only okay when Charlie Kirk does it. AStern Wednesday #29

Otherwise it's just sparkling schadenfreude? Queso Delicioso Wednesday #45

Expressing that one has no sympathy for Kirk is not gleefulness Wiz Imp Wednesday #30

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Yeah im not a go high person Samael13 Wednesday #31

The White House is literally hosing a violent UFC fight match on the WH lawn. Nimble_Idea Wednesday #32

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No BootOutTheGoons Wednesday #34

i don't think its delight. i think we are sick of innocent people being shot with no samsingh Wednesday #37

Hearing that he was shot made me sick to my stomach Tribetime Wednesday #39

I'm never gleeful about violence, but.. mvd Wednesday #42

Nah. Queso Delicioso Wednesday #43

Not at all gleeful but I do take comfort in the fact that ok_cpu Wednesday #46

Not gleeful, but Kirk DID say a certain number of gun deaths per year are necessary Scrivener7 Wednesday #47

I don't feel glee. I'm numb to the news though. This is a guy who supported unlimited gun access ecstatic Wednesday #49

No Keepthesoulalive Wednesday #50

There is a difference between "glee" and Bettie Wednesday #51

Meh. roamer65 Wednesday #52

I'm absolutely shocked and disturbed by what happened today. Initech Wednesday #53

Don't be sad bro Blues Heron Wednesday #54

The sanctimonious self-congratulatory scolding of some is also disgusting... RockRaven Wednesday #55

There are people who accept no criticism (not you). Many object to even the driest flatest suggestion (not you) Bernardo de La Paz Wednesday #64

I feel the same in regards to self-righteous posturing Torchlight Wednesday #56

I'm not gleeful at all. I wish it hadn't happened Justice Brandeis Wednesday #57

Ever since LPBBEAR Wednesday #59

"Codependent No More" by Melody Beattie Duncan Grant Wednesday #61

Hear, hear! ZDU Wednesday #83

be better people...ok... agingdem Wednesday #65

i thought it was Be Bestest ZDU Wednesday #87

My only concern is Krasnov will declare a national emergency and declare martial law. Norbert Wednesday #67

He's going to do that anyway orangecrush Wednesday #70

Maybe so, but this makes it that much easier fujiyamasan Thursday #168

Karma pfitz59 Wednesday #68

Tell it to ICE orangecrush Wednesday #69

I see no "gleefulness." Stop defaming DUers and spreading right wing talking points. SunSeeker Wednesday #72

exactly right SunSeeker.... democratsruletheday Wednesday #74

Remember this Blue Full Moon Wednesday #73

Sorry VanceFan Wednesday #75

Agreed. I will not be shamed for celebrating his death. QueerDuck Wednesday #85

Some people have been very hurt by Kirk's rhetoric uponit7771 Wednesday #76

Of course I condemn the violence. pat_k Wednesday #78

Get this straight right fucking now. Iggo Wednesday #82

Well said orangecrush Wednesday #86

There's no celebration here C_U_L8R Wednesday #88

This doesn't help the Democrat cause one bit. But, if you hadn't noticed, America is being dismantled from within. Doodley Wednesday #90

This is bad... biocube Wednesday #91

Had the shooter been Muslim mr715 Wednesday #93

LOL. All glee here. Jirel Wednesday #94

Suppose Nancy or Hillary got shot? edbermac Wednesday #95

I fully agree. OLDMDDEM Wednesday #96

those who live by the AR-15.... Mustellus Wednesday #98

yup, just like with Luigi Skittles Wednesday #101

We should kill the messenger. Ban their message Melon Wednesday #105

Thank you customerserviceguy Wednesday #107

This deserves 300 recs. WarGamer Wednesday #110

From RFK... 3825-87867 Wednesday #116

Agreed Darnell1972 Wednesday #117

I am not going to morn him, does not mean I am "gleeful". The fact is he was a purveyor of hate. lostincalifornia Wednesday #118

FAFO to the gun humpers. nt Xipe Totec Wednesday #122

I will say what I want Wifes husband Wednesday #124

There is a scroll feature on the browser. Klarkashton Wednesday #126

Do not understand Wifes husband Wednesday #164

Doesn't hold a fraction of the glee the RW took in the Wisconsin legislators shooting. I won't be preached to, ... marble falls Wednesday #128

Thank you. His policies were repulsive... COL Mustard Wednesday #129

Tots and pears wolfie001 Wednesday #130

His policies PROMOTE this very same violence. This is clearly the kind of country Republicans want, one where anyone can Karasu Wednesday #131

I suppose you felt sorry for ole Adolf Eichmann as well? paleotn Wednesday #132

this shit always happens Kali Wednesday #134

Don't mistake that someone receives random justice for glee JCMach1 Wednesday #135

If you've been bad; lord I bet you have, and you've not been hit by flying lead Martin Eden Wednesday #138

I concur 100% Devilsun Wednesday #139

Fire enid602 Wednesday #140

This is scary if some Republican gets YoshidaYui Wednesday #141

They already have that idea! That's what this man promoted Phentex Wednesday #146

Let's be clear on something. When the Orange Pedophile in the White House kicks off, as he will... NNadir Wednesday #148

It is disgusting TheDemsshouldhireme Wednesday #149

i haven't been gleeful. barbtries Wednesday #150

There is a difference between gleeful NewEnglandAutumn Wednesday #151

No gleefulness at all. I'm just saddened by two things: (1) That this political violence is happening in America and iluvtennis Wednesday #156

Well, his people made Kyle Rittenhouse, the little rat, into a hero. viva la Wednesday #158

This message was self-deleted by its author fujiyamasan Wednesday #159

The GOP has had every opportunity to help change that. Hell, they still could, if they really wanted to. But Karasu Wednesday #162

Hell, this gives them another reason to attack trans people fujiyamasan Thursday #170

I'm glad you mentioned that, since one of the last things out of Kirk's mouth was an attack on the mental health of Karasu Thursday #171

Call me disgusting all you want EnergizedLib Wednesday #160

The right wing gun nuts are gleefully celecbrating the birth of a new martyr for fascism. Ping Tung Wednesday #161

War is hell. nt BWdem4life Wednesday #163