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pat_k

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41. Whitmer, and it sounds like other Democratic governors, have ordered flags lowered
Thu Sep 11, 2025, 02:15 AM
Sep 11

Link to an article about Whitmer's order at the end of this message. I haven't confirmed who else, but frankly, I'm appalled.

He wasn't a federal or state government official or military member, so one can't claim either of those as a reason for ordering flags flown at half-staff. Flags are also flown at half-staff to mark a national tragedy.

The only national tragedy I see here is that the per capita number of gun deaths in America is more than 10 TIMES that of comparable high-income countries. And that number is primarily driven by a gun homicide rate that is 25 TIMES that of comparable high-income countries.

THAT is the national tragedy.

Perhaps every governor who gives a shit about the intolerable number of PREVENTABLE gun deaths in America should order flags to be flown at half-staff until this nation passes meaningful gun control and puts big money into interventions and community-based programs that are PROVEN to reduce gun violence.

The gun death of a man who has dedicated himself to ensuring we DO NOTHING to reduce the number of gun deaths in this nation is absolutely NOT a national tragedy.

I am appalled that any governor who claims to stand strong for REAL American values -- values like human-rights, rule of law, religious freedom, and self-governance, and the thinking underlying those values, among them rationality, compassion as a moral imperative, and scientific inquiry -- would compromise our collective values to honor this man who was hellbent on destroying anything that was halfway decent about this country.

Sure, if you've ordered flags to be flown at half-staff every year on Sept 11 as remembrance, then certainly, do it again. But make the reason CRYSTAL CLEAR. For goodness sake, don't elevate this horrible man with ANY honors.

https://www.woodtv.com/news/michigan/gov-whitmer-orders-michigan-flags-lowered-after-charlie-kirk-shot-killed/


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Charlie Kirk's last words [View all] Just_Vote_Dem Sep 10 OP
The last words out of his mouth were hateful ugly lies. Irish_Dem Sep 10 #1
This! AZJonnie Sep 10 #6
Kirk shooting aftermath maliaSmith Sep 10 #24
Yes even her own staff hates her and says she is disgusting. Irish_Dem Sep 10 #25
Buh BYE Chuck.... democratsruletheday Sep 10 #2
No condoning his shooting, but I'm having a really hard time finding any sympathy for this guy. sop Sep 10 #3
This message was self-deleted by its author COL Mustard Sep 10 #14
Based on his views of marriage, she may be better off in the long run. Iris Sep 10 #23
I felt sorry for his wife and children when he was alive........... Bengus81 Sep 10 #26
They were there. Not a good thing to witness. valleyrogue Sep 10 #33
I grieve for the manner of death as a reflection of the intolerable level of gun violence in America pat_k Sep 11 #40
Doesn't matter who shot Charlie Kirk, or What he said Akakoji Sep 10 #4
Yep he will become a martyr, it's already begun FirstLight Sep 10 #10
Whitmer, and it sounds like other Democratic governors, have ordered flags lowered pat_k Sep 11 #41
Yes this is a real concern. There are RWrs who have been itching to use their weapons cache. nt wiggs Sep 10 #15
They may have a cache, BidenRocks Sep 10 #20
They think that no Dems own guns? They'll get a rude awakening. Bengus81 Sep 10 #29
Was that question a coincidence? Or part of a conspiracy? I can't help but connect the question with the shot. Jim__ Sep 10 #5
And perhaps that's what the cabal who conducted the execution wants you to do! AZJonnie Sep 10 #8
Malcolm Nance always says that coincidences take a lot of planning. strongermessage Sep 10 #31
I disapprove of his killing. Charlie understood his own need for accepting it. Norrrm Sep 10 #7
I disapprove of the last school MURDER spree and the one before that and the other one Bengus81 Sep 10 #32
Very gracious of him to become one of the worthy sacrifices to the 2nd Ammendment. Crunchy Frog Sep 11 #39
He seems to have reaped the whirlwinds he sowed. marble falls Sep 10 #9
To listen to CNN orangecrush Sep 10 #11
I had to shut it off Just_Vote_Dem Sep 10 #12
So strange Cirsium Sep 10 #27
When 1% of all mass shooters are "too many" transgender, and when ancianita Sep 10 #13
Satan already had his soul (if he had such a thing.) erronis Sep 10 #17
On Fox...Kirk is described as an American Martyr, touching on religious or tribal notes. nt wiggs Sep 10 #16
If Fox says that about Kirk, they'll canonize trump as a saint when he kicks. ancianita Sep 10 #19
Sickening thought! calimary Sep 10 #21
Old/new Messiah Norrrm Sep 10 #34
Good one. ancianita Sep 10 #35
But... Cirsium Sep 10 #30
K&R UTUSN Sep 10 #18
That seems apropos. BannonsLiver Sep 10 #22
I hope he realized what had Figarosmom Sep 10 #28
Your prescription is ready, usonian Sep 10 #36
Post removed Post removed Sep 10 #37
Oh wow. I haven't looked at the news today. Doing other stuff. This is the 1st I've seen about this. Crunchy Frog Sep 11 #38
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