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MineralMan

(149,751 posts)
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 01:14 PM Friday

Nick Fuentes, The Groypers, and Charlie Kirk - Now It Makes Sense [View all]

Finally, one of the crackpot theories about the Charlie Kirk murder makes some crazy sence, An earlier DU thread mentioned the Groypers in connection to the shooting and I didn't get that connected right away, but now I think I understand it. The DU thread that ties the shooter to the Groypers is at:

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=20633669

A trip to Wikipedia lays out the Groyper War with Charlie Kirk clearly. I had forgotten about that somehow. See it:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Groypers

The identified shooter has been linked to the Groyper movement. If you put it all together, after reading the two links above, you'll see the connection clearly. Tyler Robinson apparently was a self-described Groyper, and you can find the reference to that in the first link.

Nick Fuentes and the Groypers have been at war with Charlie Kirk for a long time. They don't consider Kirk to be far enough right, and his success in drawing crowds has fared better than Fuentes has.

This truly could be an instance of the right fighting the farther right for domination of the extreme right of the Republican Party. Perhaps Tyler Robinson took the opportunity of Kirk's appearance in Utah to take action.

Makes the most sense of anything I've heard. Go check the links.

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How would the anti-Fascist "engravings" on the cartridges tie in? maxsolomon Friday #1
Are they anti-fascist? yardwork Friday #3
That's why the media and law enforcement need to catch up fast. OneGrassRoot Friday #8
If they even want to catch up Wicked Blue Friday #10
No, they call anything they don't like "Nazi" underpants Friday #16
'Bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao ciao ciao' (another message on a Robinson shell casing) is definitely anti-fascist Celerity Friday #20
It can't definitely be assumed anything. yardwork Friday #32
Trumpco will be the last to know. vanlassie Friday #38
Originally, yes darkstar Friday #50
Yeah, I was just about to write this/ róisín_dubh Friday #54
Childish pretty much describes the shooter Random Boomer 22 hrs ago #82
Immature, impulsive - and trained to shoot. yardwork 22 hrs ago #83
This message was self-deleted by its author liberalmuse Friday #5
Yep ⬆️ - law enforcement is either too old to understand the engravings or are straight out lying about their meaning still-prayin4rain Friday #46
This message was self-deleted by its author liberalmuse Friday #65
The Alt Right talks about being anti fascist all the time Johnny2X2X Friday #6
Exactly!!! I really don't know what to think, but calling someone/thing "fascist" doesn't mean anything. LeftInTX Friday #12
exactly-- the right totally beieved Obama was a fascist when he was POTUS LymphocyteLover Friday #13
Yeah, and that is thanks to Jonah Goldberg johnnyfins Yesterday #76
Hey lonely bird 22 hrs ago #81
Hah, yes-- forgot about that stupid book and stupid wingnut LymphocyteLover 14 hrs ago #93
My understanding is that those marks were the bullets makers marks, mwmisses4289 Friday #22
Those were on the base radical noodle Friday #68
I read... littlemissmartypants Friday #43
TRN was a manufacture stamp IbogaProject Friday #59
I thought those turned out to be manufacturer markings? niyad 21 hrs ago #86
So, not trans, not a lefty mcar Friday #2
Yes, and they must pray for him. StarryNite Friday #34
Yes! mcar Friday #41
Frankly, I couldn't have imagined B.See Friday #72
This is an easy "STOP IT, BOTH OF YOU!!" RandomNumbers 23 hrs ago #78
September 9 2025...New York Times piece on Fuentes. Drum Friday #4
Rings a bell. usonian Friday #17
I know of Fuentes from HS Freethinker65 Friday #71
His support for Israel and humiliation of Fuentes Mosby Friday #7
Excellent work here DU'ers. underpants Friday #9
The DU brain trust is legendary. ❤️ littlemissmartypants Friday #44
So he wasn't a liberal anti fascist? kimbutgar Friday #11
They said he'd become political and had been radicalized recently herding cats Friday #14
So Charlie Kirk just wasn't right enough. Botany Friday #15
So it seems, eh? MineralMan Friday #18
I guess Kirk had a falling out with Groyper founder Fuentes and his anti semitism didn't jive with Kirk's ... Botany Friday #24
Yep malaise Friday #19
Not very nice folks, are they? MineralMan Friday #21
Jumping in here but I think they knew internally underpants Friday #33
Nick Fuentes basically admitted on Twitter last night that Charlie Kirk's shooter was a Groyper. SunSeeker Friday #23
Are you saying this "Asupa Groyper" account is Fuentes himself? Bluetus Friday #58
Fuentes made those statements on his podcast last night. Here's video of him saying it. SunSeeker Friday #60
Sounds like he's figured out there's more grifting in religion intrepidity 19 hrs ago #92
Wow.. Thanks for all of that.. I looked up how they Cha Friday #73
Yes, now we can begin to connect the dots.... FarPoint Friday #25
Open Mouth, Insert Foot, Bite Hard FrankTC Friday #26
When you fester a culture of violence and hatred like MAGA has... Initech Friday #28
If the shooter was linked to Fuentes, you can bet he'll be brought in for questioning. Initech Friday #27
The MAGAts are eating themselves. Sneederbunk Friday #29
They're eating their own dogs. They're eating their own cats. littlemissmartypants Friday #45
Biggie vs. Tupac Deep State Witch Friday #63
Thank you MineralMan! I hope this gets spread far and wide FakeNoose Friday #30
I just tried to put it together concisely and with links. MineralMan Friday #37
I actually was predicting this yesterday on FB that another wing nut shot him over doctrinal differences. diane in sf Friday #31
Hot-headed youths, I guess. MineralMan Friday #39
In a state with a death-penalty sentence for 1st-degree murder... Justice matters. Friday #49
That waste is not mandatory.. He should have been raised better, I think. MineralMan Friday #51
Agreed. Justice matters. Friday #52
What can we do about it? Dr. T 22 hrs ago #84
Basically, he was raised in a cult. jeffreyi 22 hrs ago #85
When Charlie Kirk isn't rw enough for you... rubbersole Friday #35
Shapiro should mediate. Sneederbunk Friday #36
Internal MAGA civil war... MiHale Friday #40
More like gang warfare Jilly_in_VA Friday #62
Maybe they can finish each other off. Joinfortmill Friday #42
Hope springs eternal. littlemissmartypants Friday #47
Was Charlie Kirk aware of the danger from the Fuentes/Groypers? ananda Friday #48
I have no idea. I don't know any people like that. MineralMan Friday #53
Well, think of it this way. ananda Friday #55
Trump damn near got taken out by a sniper -- what's Kirk's security going to do? W_HAMILTON Friday #66
That staged stunt? niyad 21 hrs ago #87
I don't trust anything from Musk's AI tool Grok, but I thought this was interesting. Wiz Imp Friday #56
All those words on ammo casing??? Even my handwriting is not that small!!! niyad 21 hrs ago #88
Yeah, it seems to me the text would have to be super tiny to fit Wiz Imp 20 hrs ago #91
K&R spanone Friday #57
It's Tupac vs Biggie Deep State Witch Friday #61
It's a good time to remind people of this Bookreadingliberal53 Friday #64
Yesterday I read that on a post, too. BigmanPigman Friday #67
K&R Justice matters. Friday #69
wow, I never heard of Groypers or this war till now. JUST WOW. Nimble_Idea Friday #70
Nor me. As many have so often observed... 3catwoman3 Yesterday #77
Add this one to the growing list of shootings tied to Discord groups...kind of scary actually. pecosbob Yesterday #74
This is speculation. Don Lemon said it without any attribution. He has been known to say things Scrivener7 Yesterday #75
This message was self-deleted by its author 58Sunliner 23 hrs ago #79
So now will someone from the Kirk camp extract payback on the Gropyers? Fla Dem 23 hrs ago #80
Learning about this as has been said "just now" Prairie_Seagull 21 hrs ago #89
so about all those death threats azureblue 21 hrs ago #90
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