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14. They said he'd become political and had been radicalized recently
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 02:08 PM
23 hrs ago

They didn't say he'd become a leftist at any point. They just tossed the childish engravings out and basically said you make the connection. Then Trump and his band of merry minions screamed it's all on the leftist/liberals.

Let's be honest if they had anything solidly linking him to the left they'd be screaming it from the rooftops. That they're not speaks volumes and does open up a possibility of him being a Groyper. His family were definitely RWers.

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How would the anti-Fascist "engravings" on the cartridges tie in? maxsolomon Yesterday #1
Are they anti-fascist? yardwork Yesterday #3
That's why the media and law enforcement need to catch up fast. OneGrassRoot Yesterday #8
If they even want to catch up Wicked Blue Yesterday #10
No, they call anything they don't like "Nazi" underpants 23 hrs ago #16
'Bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao ciao ciao' (another message on a Robinson shell casing) is definitely anti-fascist Celerity 23 hrs ago #20
It can't definitely be assumed anything. yardwork 23 hrs ago #32
Trumpco will be the last to know. vanlassie 22 hrs ago #38
Originally, yes darkstar 22 hrs ago #50
Yeah, I was just about to write this/ róisín_dubh 22 hrs ago #54
Childish pretty much describes the shooter Random Boomer 3 hrs ago #82
Immature, impulsive - and trained to shoot. yardwork 3 hrs ago #83
This message was self-deleted by its author liberalmuse Yesterday #5
Yep ⬆️ - law enforcement is either too old to understand the engravings or are straight out lying about their meaning still-prayin4rain 22 hrs ago #46
This message was self-deleted by its author liberalmuse 20 hrs ago #65
The Alt Right talks about being anti fascist all the time Johnny2X2X Yesterday #6
Exactly!!! I really don't know what to think, but calling someone/thing "fascist" doesn't mean anything. LeftInTX 23 hrs ago #12
exactly-- the right totally beieved Obama was a fascist when he was POTUS LymphocyteLover 23 hrs ago #13
Yeah, and that is thanks to Jonah Goldberg johnnyfins 5 hrs ago #76
Hey lonely bird 3 hrs ago #81
My understanding is that those marks were the bullets makers marks, mwmisses4289 23 hrs ago #22
Those were on the base radical noodle 18 hrs ago #68
I read... littlemissmartypants 22 hrs ago #43
TRN was a manufacture stamp IbogaProject 21 hrs ago #59
I thought those turned out to be manufacturer markings? niyad 2 hrs ago #86
So, not trans, not a lefty mcar Yesterday #2
Yes, and they must pray for him. StarryNite 23 hrs ago #34
Yes! mcar 22 hrs ago #41
Frankly, I couldn't have imagined B.See 14 hrs ago #72
This is an easy "STOP IT, BOTH OF YOU!!" RandomNumbers 4 hrs ago #78
September 9 2025...New York Times piece on Fuentes. Drum Yesterday #4
Rings a bell. usonian 23 hrs ago #17
I know of Fuentes from HS Freethinker65 14 hrs ago #71
His support for Israel and humiliation of Fuentes Mosby Yesterday #7
Excellent work here DU'ers. underpants Yesterday #9
The DU brain trust is legendary. ❤️ littlemissmartypants 22 hrs ago #44
So he wasn't a liberal anti fascist? kimbutgar 23 hrs ago #11
They said he'd become political and had been radicalized recently herding cats 23 hrs ago #14
So Charlie Kirk just wasn't right enough. Botany 23 hrs ago #15
So it seems, eh? MineralMan 23 hrs ago #18
I guess Kirk had a falling out with Groyper founder Fuentes and his anti semitism didn't jive with Kirk's ... Botany 23 hrs ago #24
Yep malaise 23 hrs ago #19
Not very nice folks, are they? MineralMan 23 hrs ago #21
Jumping in here but I think they knew internally underpants 23 hrs ago #33
Nick Fuentes basically admitted on Twitter last night that Charlie Kirk's shooter was a Groyper. SunSeeker 23 hrs ago #23
Are you saying this "Asupa Groyper" account is Fuentes himself? Bluetus 21 hrs ago #58
Fuentes made those statements on his podcast last night. Here's video of him saying it. SunSeeker 21 hrs ago #60
Sounds like he's figured out there's more grifting in religion intrepidity 2 min ago #92
Wow.. Thanks for all of that.. I looked up how they Cha 14 hrs ago #73
Yes, now we can begin to connect the dots.... FarPoint 23 hrs ago #25
Open Mouth, Insert Foot, Bite Hard FrankTC 23 hrs ago #26
When you fester a culture of violence and hatred like MAGA has... Initech 23 hrs ago #28
If the shooter was linked to Fuentes, you can bet he'll be brought in for questioning. Initech 23 hrs ago #27
The MAGAts are eating themselves. Sneederbunk 23 hrs ago #29
They're eating their own dogs. They're eating their own cats. littlemissmartypants 22 hrs ago #45
Biggie vs. Tupac Deep State Witch 21 hrs ago #63
Thank you MineralMan! I hope this gets spread far and wide FakeNoose 23 hrs ago #30
I just tried to put it together concisely and with links. MineralMan 22 hrs ago #37
I actually was predicting this yesterday on FB that another wing nut shot him over doctrinal differences. diane in sf 23 hrs ago #31
Hot-headed youths, I guess. MineralMan 22 hrs ago #39
In a state with a death-penalty sentence for 1st-degree murder... Justice matters. 22 hrs ago #49
That waste is not mandatory.. He should have been raised better, I think. MineralMan 22 hrs ago #51
Agreed. Justice matters. 22 hrs ago #52
What can we do about? Dr. T 2 hrs ago #84
Basically, he was raised in a cult. jeffreyi 2 hrs ago #85
When Charlie Kirk isn't rw enough for you... rubbersole 23 hrs ago #35
Shapiro should mediate. Sneederbunk 23 hrs ago #36
Internal MAGA civil war... MiHale 22 hrs ago #40
More like gang warfare Jilly_in_VA 21 hrs ago #62
Maybe they can finish each other off. Joinfortmill 22 hrs ago #42
Hope springs eternal. littlemissmartypants 22 hrs ago #47
Was Charlie Kirk aware of the danger from the Fuentes/Groypers? ananda 22 hrs ago #48
I have no idea. I don't know any people like that. MineralMan 22 hrs ago #53
Well, think of it this way. ananda 22 hrs ago #55
Trump damn near got taken out by a sniper -- what's Kirk's security going to do? W_HAMILTON 19 hrs ago #66
That staged stunt? niyad 2 hrs ago #87
I don't trust anything from Musk's AI tool Grok, but I thought this was interesting. Wiz Imp 21 hrs ago #56
All those words on ammo casing??? Even my handwriting is not that small!!! niyad 2 hrs ago #88
Yeah, it seems to me the text would have to be super tiny to fit Wiz Imp 1 hr ago #91
K&R spanone 21 hrs ago #57
It's Tupac vs Biggie Deep State Witch 21 hrs ago #61
It's a good time to remind people of this Bookreadingliberal53 20 hrs ago #64
Yesterday I read that on a post, too. BigmanPigman 19 hrs ago #67
K&R Justice matters. 16 hrs ago #69
wow, I never heard of Groypers or this war till now. JUST WOW. Nimble_Idea 16 hrs ago #70
Nor me. As many have so often observed... 3catwoman3 5 hrs ago #77
Add this one to the growing list of shootings tied to Discord groups...kind of scary actually. pecosbob 6 hrs ago #74
This is speculation. Don Lemon said it without any attribution. He has been known to say things Scrivener7 5 hrs ago #75
This message was self-deleted by its author 58Sunliner 4 hrs ago #79
So now will someone from the Kirk camp extract payback on the Gropyers? Fla Dem 3 hrs ago #80
Learning about this as has been said "just now" Prairie_Seagull 2 hrs ago #89
so about all those death threats azureblue 2 hrs ago #90
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