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Wiz Imp

(6,968 posts)
56. I don't trust anything from Musk's AI tool Grok, but I thought this was interesting.
Fri Sep 12, 2025, 04:07 PM
20 hrs ago

In your opinion grok what do these symbols track his political beliefs in?

In my view, these inscriptions on the ammo casings—"Notices bulges OWO," "Oh Bella Ciao, Bella Ciao, Bella Ciao Ciao Ciao," "Catch this fascist," and "If you are reading this you are gay, lmaoooo"—aren't random or left-leaning signals like some early reports claimed. Instead, they trace Tyler Robinson's political beliefs squarely to the fringes of the alt-right, specifically the Groyper movement led by figures like Nick Fuentes.

This crowd positions itself as hyper-patriotic, pro-Trump conservatives who see mainstream Republicans like Charlie Kirk as sellouts or "fake conservatives" infected by globalism, liberalism, or even fascism-lite. The "bulges OWO" bit is a crude, mocking nod to transphobic memes that originated on Tumblr but got co-opted by right-wing trolls to "spot" trans people in crowds—pure Groyper-style bigotry. "Bella Ciao" flips an anti-fascist WWII partisan song into ironic ammo for ridiculing leftists, while tying into their beef with "fascist" establishment figures like Kirk (whom Fuentes has repeatedly trashed). The "gay" taunt is straight-up homophobic bait, emblematic of the group's anti-LGBTQ venom. And "Catch this fascist"? That's a direct shot at Kirk, framing the attack as purging a traitor from the right.

Overall, it's not antifa or trans activism—it's the toxic underbelly of the MAGA ecosystem, where online radicalization turns personal grievances into violence against perceived ideological impurities. Robinson's Republican registration and Trump donations fit the profile: a young guy steeped in gun culture and pandemic-era echo chambers, lashing out at "the enemy within" on his own side. Tragic, but a reminder that extremism doesn't care about party lines—it just amplifies hate.

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How would the anti-Fascist "engravings" on the cartridges tie in? maxsolomon 22 hrs ago #1
Are they anti-fascist? yardwork 22 hrs ago #3
That's why the media and law enforcement need to catch up fast. OneGrassRoot 22 hrs ago #8
If they even want to catch up Wicked Blue 22 hrs ago #10
No, they call anything they don't like "Nazi" underpants 21 hrs ago #16
'Bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao ciao ciao' (another message on a Robinson shell casing) is definitely anti-fascist Celerity 21 hrs ago #20
It can't definitely be assumed anything. yardwork 21 hrs ago #32
Trumpco will be the last to know. vanlassie 21 hrs ago #38
Originally, yes darkstar 20 hrs ago #50
Yeah, I was just about to write this/ róisín_dubh 20 hrs ago #54
Childish pretty much describes the shooter Random Boomer 1 hr ago #82
Immature, impulsive - and trained to shoot. yardwork 1 hr ago #83
This message was self-deleted by its author liberalmuse 22 hrs ago #5
Yep ⬆️ - law enforcement is either too old to understand the engravings or are straight out lying about their meaning still-prayin4rain 20 hrs ago #46
This message was self-deleted by its author liberalmuse 19 hrs ago #65
The Alt Right talks about being anti fascist all the time Johnny2X2X 22 hrs ago #6
Exactly!!! I really don't know what to think, but calling someone/thing "fascist" doesn't mean anything. LeftInTX 22 hrs ago #12
exactly-- the right totally beieved Obama was a fascist when he was POTUS LymphocyteLover 22 hrs ago #13
Yeah, and that is thanks to Jonah Goldberg johnnyfins 3 hrs ago #76
Hey lonely bird 1 hr ago #81
My understanding is that those marks were the bullets makers marks, mwmisses4289 21 hrs ago #22
Those were on the base radical noodle 16 hrs ago #68
I read... littlemissmartypants 21 hrs ago #43
TRN was a manufacture stamp IbogaProject 19 hrs ago #59
I thought those turned out to be manufacturer markings? niyad 1 hr ago #86
So, not trans, not a lefty mcar 22 hrs ago #2
Yes, and they must pray for him. StarryNite 21 hrs ago #34
Yes! mcar 21 hrs ago #41
Frankly, I couldn't have imagined B.See 12 hrs ago #72
This is an easy "STOP IT, BOTH OF YOU!!" RandomNumbers 2 hrs ago #78
September 9 2025...New York Times piece on Fuentes. Drum 22 hrs ago #4
Rings a bell. usonian 21 hrs ago #17
I know of Fuentes from HS Freethinker65 13 hrs ago #71
His support for Israel and humiliation of Fuentes Mosby 22 hrs ago #7
Excellent work here DU'ers. underpants 22 hrs ago #9
The DU brain trust is legendary. ❤️ littlemissmartypants 20 hrs ago #44
So he wasn't a liberal anti fascist? kimbutgar 22 hrs ago #11
They said he'd become political and had been radicalized recently herding cats 22 hrs ago #14
So Charlie Kirk just wasn't right enough. Botany 22 hrs ago #15
So it seems, eh? MineralMan 21 hrs ago #18
I guess Kirk had a falling out with Groyper founder Fuentes and his anti semitism didn't jive with Kirk's ... Botany 21 hrs ago #24
Yep malaise 21 hrs ago #19
Not very nice folks, are they? MineralMan 21 hrs ago #21
Jumping in here but I think they knew internally underpants 21 hrs ago #33
Nick Fuentes basically admitted on Twitter last night that Charlie Kirk's shooter was a Groyper. SunSeeker 21 hrs ago #23
Are you saying this "Asupa Groyper" account is Fuentes himself? Bluetus 20 hrs ago #58
Fuentes made those statements on his podcast last night. Here's video of him saying it. SunSeeker 19 hrs ago #60
Wow.. Thanks for all of that.. I looked up how they Cha 12 hrs ago #73
Yes, now we can begin to connect the dots.... FarPoint 21 hrs ago #25
Open Mouth, Insert Foot, Bite Hard FrankTC 21 hrs ago #26
When you fester a culture of violence and hatred like MAGA has... Initech 21 hrs ago #28
If the shooter was linked to Fuentes, you can bet he'll be brought in for questioning. Initech 21 hrs ago #27
The MAGAts are eating themselves. Sneederbunk 21 hrs ago #29
They're eating their own dogs. They're eating their own cats. littlemissmartypants 20 hrs ago #45
Biggie vs. Tupac Deep State Witch 19 hrs ago #63
Thank you MineralMan! I hope this gets spread far and wide FakeNoose 21 hrs ago #30
I just tried to put it together concisely and with links. MineralMan 21 hrs ago #37
I actually was predicting this yesterday on FB that another wing nut shot him over doctrinal differences. diane in sf 21 hrs ago #31
Hot-headed youths, I guess. MineralMan 21 hrs ago #39
In a state with a death-penalty sentence for 1st-degree murder... Justice matters. 20 hrs ago #49
That waste is not mandatory.. He should have been raised better, I think. MineralMan 20 hrs ago #51
Agreed. Justice matters. 20 hrs ago #52
What can we do about? Dr. T 1 hr ago #84
Basically, he was raised in a cult. jeffreyi 1 hr ago #85
When Charlie Kirk isn't rw enough for you... rubbersole 21 hrs ago #35
Shapiro should mediate. Sneederbunk 21 hrs ago #36
Internal MAGA civil war... MiHale 21 hrs ago #40
More like gang warfare Jilly_in_VA 19 hrs ago #62
Maybe they can finish each other off. Joinfortmill 21 hrs ago #42
Hope springs eternal. littlemissmartypants 20 hrs ago #47
Was Charlie Kirk aware of the danger from the Fuentes/Groypers? ananda 20 hrs ago #48
I have no idea. I don't know any people like that. MineralMan 20 hrs ago #53
Well, think of it this way. ananda 20 hrs ago #55
Trump damn near got taken out by a sniper -- what's Kirk's security going to do? W_HAMILTON 17 hrs ago #66
That staged stunt? niyad 53 min ago #87
I don't trust anything from Musk's AI tool Grok, but I thought this was interesting. Wiz Imp 20 hrs ago #56
All those words on ammo casing??? Even my handwriting is not that small!!! niyad 50 min ago #88
K&R spanone 20 hrs ago #57
It's Tupac vs Biggie Deep State Witch 19 hrs ago #61
It's a good time to remind people of this Bookreadingliberal53 19 hrs ago #64
Yesterday I read that on a post, too. BigmanPigman 17 hrs ago #67
K&R Justice matters. 15 hrs ago #69
wow, I never heard of Groypers or this war till now. JUST WOW. Nimble_Idea 14 hrs ago #70
Nor me. As many have so often observed... 3catwoman3 3 hrs ago #77
Add this one to the growing list of shootings tied to Discord groups...kind of scary actually. pecosbob 4 hrs ago #74
This is speculation. Don Lemon said it without any attribution. He has been known to say things Scrivener7 4 hrs ago #75
This message was self-deleted by its author 58Sunliner 2 hrs ago #79
So now will someone from the Kirk camp extract payback on the Gropyers? Fla Dem 2 hrs ago #80
Learning about this as has been said "just now" Prairie_Seagull 32 min ago #89
so about all those death threats azureblue 25 min ago #90
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