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In reply to the discussion: Nick Fuentes, The Groypers, and Charlie Kirk - Now It Makes Sense [View all]Wiz Imp
(6,968 posts)56. I don't trust anything from Musk's AI tool Grok, but I thought this was interesting.
In your opinion grok what do these symbols track his political beliefs in?
In my view, these inscriptions on the ammo casings"Notices bulges OWO," "Oh Bella Ciao, Bella Ciao, Bella Ciao Ciao Ciao," "Catch this fascist," and "If you are reading this you are gay, lmaoooo"aren't random or left-leaning signals like some early reports claimed. Instead, they trace Tyler Robinson's political beliefs squarely to the fringes of the alt-right, specifically the Groyper movement led by figures like Nick Fuentes.
This crowd positions itself as hyper-patriotic, pro-Trump conservatives who see mainstream Republicans like Charlie Kirk as sellouts or "fake conservatives" infected by globalism, liberalism, or even fascism-lite. The "bulges OWO" bit is a crude, mocking nod to transphobic memes that originated on Tumblr but got co-opted by right-wing trolls to "spot" trans people in crowdspure Groyper-style bigotry. "Bella Ciao" flips an anti-fascist WWII partisan song into ironic ammo for ridiculing leftists, while tying into their beef with "fascist" establishment figures like Kirk (whom Fuentes has repeatedly trashed). The "gay" taunt is straight-up homophobic bait, emblematic of the group's anti-LGBTQ venom. And "Catch this fascist"? That's a direct shot at Kirk, framing the attack as purging a traitor from the right.
Overall, it's not antifa or trans activismit's the toxic underbelly of the MAGA ecosystem, where online radicalization turns personal grievances into violence against perceived ideological impurities. Robinson's Republican registration and Trump donations fit the profile: a young guy steeped in gun culture and pandemic-era echo chambers, lashing out at "the enemy within" on his own side. Tragic, but a reminder that extremism doesn't care about party linesit just amplifies hate.
This crowd positions itself as hyper-patriotic, pro-Trump conservatives who see mainstream Republicans like Charlie Kirk as sellouts or "fake conservatives" infected by globalism, liberalism, or even fascism-lite. The "bulges OWO" bit is a crude, mocking nod to transphobic memes that originated on Tumblr but got co-opted by right-wing trolls to "spot" trans people in crowdspure Groyper-style bigotry. "Bella Ciao" flips an anti-fascist WWII partisan song into ironic ammo for ridiculing leftists, while tying into their beef with "fascist" establishment figures like Kirk (whom Fuentes has repeatedly trashed). The "gay" taunt is straight-up homophobic bait, emblematic of the group's anti-LGBTQ venom. And "Catch this fascist"? That's a direct shot at Kirk, framing the attack as purging a traitor from the right.
Overall, it's not antifa or trans activismit's the toxic underbelly of the MAGA ecosystem, where online radicalization turns personal grievances into violence against perceived ideological impurities. Robinson's Republican registration and Trump donations fit the profile: a young guy steeped in gun culture and pandemic-era echo chambers, lashing out at "the enemy within" on his own side. Tragic, but a reminder that extremism doesn't care about party linesit just amplifies hate.
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Nick Fuentes, The Groypers, and Charlie Kirk - Now It Makes Sense [View all]
MineralMan
22 hrs ago
OP
'Bella ciao, bella ciao, bella ciao ciao ciao' (another message on a Robinson shell casing) is definitely anti-fascist
Celerity
21 hrs ago
#20
Yep ⬆️ - law enforcement is either too old to understand the engravings or are straight out lying about their meaning
still-prayin4rain
20 hrs ago
#46
Exactly!!! I really don't know what to think, but calling someone/thing "fascist" doesn't mean anything.
LeftInTX
22 hrs ago
#12
exactly-- the right totally beieved Obama was a fascist when he was POTUS
LymphocyteLover
22 hrs ago
#13
I guess Kirk had a falling out with Groyper founder Fuentes and his anti semitism didn't jive with Kirk's ...
Botany
21 hrs ago
#24
Nick Fuentes basically admitted on Twitter last night that Charlie Kirk's shooter was a Groyper.
SunSeeker
21 hrs ago
#23
Fuentes made those statements on his podcast last night. Here's video of him saying it.
SunSeeker
19 hrs ago
#60
If the shooter was linked to Fuentes, you can bet he'll be brought in for questioning.
Initech
21 hrs ago
#27
I actually was predicting this yesterday on FB that another wing nut shot him over doctrinal differences.
diane in sf
21 hrs ago
#31
Trump damn near got taken out by a sniper -- what's Kirk's security going to do?
W_HAMILTON
17 hrs ago
#66
I don't trust anything from Musk's AI tool Grok, but I thought this was interesting.
Wiz Imp
20 hrs ago
#56
Add this one to the growing list of shootings tied to Discord groups...kind of scary actually.
pecosbob
4 hrs ago
#74
This is speculation. Don Lemon said it without any attribution. He has been known to say things
Scrivener7
4 hrs ago
#75