General Discussion

in one convenient, illustrative nutshell

They DO NOT DO intellectual integrity. In fact, they do not even understand the concept.

In the entire 25, over 1000's of conversations, not once have I seen the words "you make a good/interesting point" or "I hadn't though of it that way". Even though I'm very, very sure I make good points along these lines all the damn time. Once they decide on their angle and express it in a conversation, that is it. They will stick to it like a dog with a bone, and "debating" is completely futile and pointless.