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wishstar

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15. None of my family, neighbors or friends knew who he was before this week

Fri Sep 12, 2025, 04:50 PM

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Blaming his murder on Dems and lefties is way over the top as he wasn't on the radar of anyone I talk politics with and even my neighbors with sons in their 30's didn't know about him, because we are all Dems who do not pay much attention to rightwing propagandists, unless they reach the obnoxious notoriety of Rush Limbaugh and the two Steve's. Kirk didn't even come close to that level of fame or influence in American culture except in MAGA world.

I seem to be the only one in my circle who was very familiar with him as a big MAGA promoter. The idea we should honor him as a national hero and can't discuss his divisive rhetoric without repercussions is ridiculous.

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This is NOT a national tragedy! [View all] edhopper Yesterday OP

I'd sure like to know what's behind it n/t leftstreet Yesterday #1

It's a RW influencer tragedy! And personal tragedy for his family. LeftInTX Yesterday #2

Well, since his children are 1 and 3, TNNurse Yesterday #21

Yikes. They'll be tramatized by it over time MadameButterfly Yesterday #25

They'd be equally traumatized if he lived. paleotn Yesterday #35

and they'd be reallly lousy human beings MadameButterfly Yesterday #36

Exactly. paleotn Yesterday #45

Not necessarily. Trump is a Grade A prick. 3Hotdogs Yesterday #59

I share that sentiment. yellow dahlia Yesterday #77

Post removed Post removed Yesterday #81

I was 10 when my father died. TNNurse Yesterday #57

Their mother is no less bigoted Random Boomer 12 hrs ago #93

He said if his daughter was raped at 10 JenniferJuniper Yesterday #37

I hope, when she is of age, she learns that. intrepidity Yesterday #79

Absolutely! Bayard Yesterday #3

Our media is broken. spanone Yesterday #4

As is our country, in large part because of the media. Eliot Rosewater Yesterday #6

Most who voted for thr Felon in Chief Dark n Stormy Knight 11 hrs ago #96

Excellent way of putting it, and even though it's been shown to them Eliot Rosewater 9 hrs ago #102

That is what will forever blow my mind. Dark n Stormy Knight 5 hrs ago #112

How would you go about fixing it? (n.t.) Oeditpus Rex Yesterday #49

I have no clue. Journalism appears dead. spanone Yesterday #51

As separate statements, those coroborate each other. (n.t.) Oeditpus Rex Yesterday #62

I don't think political killings are good for nation, no matter how you cut it. Whether it's an incel, trumspter, Antifa Silent Type Yesterday #5

Political killings may not be good for the country, PoindexterOglethorpe Yesterday #13

That is definitely a good outcome, especially if it doesn't hurt us in elections. Silent Type Yesterday #17

It might. hurts us in elections MadameButterfly Yesterday #26

If it's a true that this was Right-on-Right violence, I am not sure how it hurts us at the ballot box. nt Gore1FL Yesterday #71

if that message gets through to the MAGAs MadameButterfly Yesterday #76

I totally agree. Khrushchev said, and we are seeing it. phxjurist Yesterday #18

What in the OP says it's good? dpibel Yesterday #20

OP says it ranks low on assassination meter, I disagree. I think trumpsters take it seriously and Silent Type Yesterday #24

But treating Kirk like a Kennedy MadameButterfly Yesterday #28

Not a POTUS or Senator etc leftstreet Yesterday #29

It does. edhopper Yesterday #42

It ranks high because most everyone viewed it instead of just reading about it womanofthehills 19 hrs ago #87

Did I say it was good edhopper Yesterday #41

Pretty much said it ranked low on totem pole. But it's not that big a deal. If I remember, WW2 started with Silent Type Yesterday #44

That was WWI not WWII MLWR Yesterday #48

Who was heir to the throne Nasruddin Yesterday #72

Nah, it wasn't lonely bird 13 hrs ago #92

That was WWI edhopper Yesterday #54

Not quite accurate. Torchlight 10 hrs ago #97

He was not a small figure womanofthehills 18 hrs ago #88

It wasn't a "political killing" or a political assassination. It was an internecine battle between cults. erronis Yesterday #56

But it's looking like this wasn't even a political killing . . . markpkessinger Yesterday #63

Thank you. COL Mustard 13 hrs ago #90

There once was a time where people generally agreed that all ideas should be tested with 'exposure to sunlight' ClaudetteCC 11 hrs ago #95

Agree, although certainly the gun culture as a whole... ananda Yesterday #7

Our media is gone AStern Yesterday #8

The only national tragedy I see here is that ... pat_k Yesterday #9

I like your "perhaps every governor..." argument. calimary Yesterday #52

I'm writing a message to WA Gov Bob Ferguson's office pat_k Yesterday #60

I'd guess every outlet in the political online universe has somebody keeping an eye out. calimary Yesterday #66

I'm waiting for tsf to have his casket interred on the WH lawn. rubbersole Yesterday #10

We'll do a Cromwell on him once we take that house back. paleotn Yesterday #38

How 'bout the front gate... rubbersole Yesterday #80

They made it a huge deal because they thought it would be a good StarryNite Yesterday #11

They are looking for excuses to MadameButterfly Yesterday #30

Hell, they were desperate for him to be that! (n/t) OldBaldy1701E 15 hrs ago #89

My mom and dad voted for John Kennedy. That asshat was no John Kennedy Bengus81 Yesterday #12

The media mentions the trauma of his brutal murder Mtnmama Yesterday #14

"Why haven't we done anything to address the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction?" Dulcinea Yesterday #32

None of my family, neighbors or friends knew who he was before this week wishstar Yesterday #15

I consider myself fairly knowledgeable about politics in general. llmart Yesterday #64

time to spend the evening with a book NJCher Yesterday #16

I only saw it channel surfing edhopper Yesterday #19

I'm done with MSNBC and CNN AverageOldGuy Yesterday #22

I'm clinging to MSNBC with all its faults MadameButterfly Yesterday #33

AFAIAC, charlie kirk is already buried. lastlib Yesterday #23

Way over the top coverage for just one killing. Emile Yesterday #27

Well he was a big fish in the right wing sewer. Conjuay Yesterday #67

I assure you I have gone about my life very normally these last few days Justice Brandeis Yesterday #31

Um. Any relation? MadameButterfly Yesterday #34

I just saw a clip where Charlie Kirk said we need to bring back public executions, and they should be televised.. crimycarny Yesterday #39

YEP. Where was all this mourning and martyring when the two Dems and their dog ... CousinIT Yesterday #40

Well, the world lost an irreplaceable giant dalton99a Yesterday #43

CK is the victim of a MAGA civil war. Sneederbunk Yesterday #46

And there is certainly more coverage of this bullshit than there EVER is with mass school shootings. BigDemVoter Yesterday #47

Since the right wing controls most media now Diraven Yesterday #50

While it's true that in both cases there was zero chance of survival from the type of wounds... Montauk6 Yesterday #53

I can't even watch msnbc anymore kimbutgar Yesterday #55

I turned it off after the election too BlueSpot 23 hrs ago #83

Ah grasshopper, it is a tragedy that they call it a tragedy. twodogsbarking Yesterday #58

It's nauseating. nt mcar Yesterday #61

The tragedy EnergizedLib Yesterday #65

How is Kirk's death any different than the daily deaths, in America, from gun violence? dlk Yesterday #68

I tuned into the Bears-Pack game Hassler Yesterday #69

It's the sudden canonization of Kirk that I find nauseating. That he died tragically does not change that. SunSeeker Yesterday #70

40000 gun deaths a year and this was the BIG ONE? Give me a fucking break. NoMoreRepugs Yesterday #73

The first time that Republicans have responded to a school shooting RainCaster Yesterday #74

I'm genuinely pissed off at all the businesses, etc., flying the flag bullwinkle428 Yesterday #75

I don't know if I'd agree with that assessment. I can see the argument that it's a national tragedy in a couple ways. Jedi Guy Yesterday #78

Nope, not a national tragedy. Just another gun nut killing, and the person killed supported gun nuts. Martin68 Yesterday #82

It may well turn out to be a national tragedy soldierant 22 hrs ago #84

Yes. I just pleaded my spouse to turn off KCAL 9. C Moon 22 hrs ago #85

It is a national tragedy. Aussie105 20 hrs ago #86

No Not In The Least - and let me just point out one minor detail - Lokee11 13 hrs ago #91

Agreed. I remember much less outcry when Squeaky Fromme shot at Gerald Ford. no_hypocrisy 11 hrs ago #94

Kirk's death is absolutely simply one among thousands. BobTheSubgenius 10 hrs ago #98

I think... SickOfTheOnePct 10 hrs ago #99

Do you know think it warrants edhopper 9 hrs ago #103

No SickOfTheOnePct 4 hrs ago #113

Melissa Hortman. Scrivener7 9 hrs ago #100

It's Just the Unremarkable Death Of Yet Another Hatemonger MrWowWow 9 hrs ago #101

I never heard of him before this week. milestogo 9 hrs ago #104

This is part of the national tragedy... returnee 8 hrs ago #105

Except edhopper 8 hrs ago #107

That's the story... returnee 6 hrs ago #111

My neighbor, three doors down, has his American flag at half mast. Turbineguy 8 hrs ago #106

It is a litmus test. edhopper 8 hrs ago #108

There are 188 houses in our subdivision. Turbineguy 8 hrs ago #109

I'm glad to say I didn't waste one second watching any M$M coverage of any of it Blue Owl 7 hrs ago #110