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MadameButterfly

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26. It might. hurts us in elections

Fri Sep 12, 2025, 05:19 PM

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He'll be a martyr, one less RW voice for releasing the Epstein files.
There might also be some murders of liberals because of this.

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This is NOT a national tragedy! [View all] edhopper Yesterday OP

I'd sure like to know what's behind it n/t leftstreet Yesterday #1

It's a RW influencer tragedy! And personal tragedy for his family. LeftInTX Yesterday #2

Well, since his children are 1 and 3, TNNurse Yesterday #21

Yikes. They'll be tramatized by it over time MadameButterfly Yesterday #25

They'd be equally traumatized if he lived. paleotn Yesterday #35

and they'd be reallly lousy human beings MadameButterfly Yesterday #36

Exactly. paleotn Yesterday #45

Not necessarily. Trump is a Grade A prick. 3Hotdogs Yesterday #59

I share that sentiment. yellow dahlia Yesterday #77

Post removed Post removed Yesterday #81

I was 10 when my father died. TNNurse Yesterday #57

Their mother is no less bigoted Random Boomer 12 hrs ago #93

He said if his daughter was raped at 10 JenniferJuniper Yesterday #37

I hope, when she is of age, she learns that. intrepidity Yesterday #79

Absolutely! Bayard Yesterday #3

Our media is broken. spanone Yesterday #4

As is our country, in large part because of the media. Eliot Rosewater Yesterday #6

Most who voted for thr Felon in Chief Dark n Stormy Knight 11 hrs ago #96

Excellent way of putting it, and even though it's been shown to them Eliot Rosewater 9 hrs ago #102

That is what will forever blow my mind. Dark n Stormy Knight 5 hrs ago #112

How would you go about fixing it? (n.t.) Oeditpus Rex Yesterday #49

I have no clue. Journalism appears dead. spanone Yesterday #51

As separate statements, those coroborate each other. (n.t.) Oeditpus Rex Yesterday #62

I don't think political killings are good for nation, no matter how you cut it. Whether it's an incel, trumspter, Antifa Silent Type Yesterday #5

Political killings may not be good for the country, PoindexterOglethorpe Yesterday #13

That is definitely a good outcome, especially if it doesn't hurt us in elections. Silent Type Yesterday #17

It might. hurts us in elections MadameButterfly Yesterday #26

If it's a true that this was Right-on-Right violence, I am not sure how it hurts us at the ballot box. nt Gore1FL Yesterday #71

if that message gets through to the MAGAs MadameButterfly Yesterday #76

I totally agree. Khrushchev said, and we are seeing it. phxjurist Yesterday #18

What in the OP says it's good? dpibel Yesterday #20

OP says it ranks low on assassination meter, I disagree. I think trumpsters take it seriously and Silent Type Yesterday #24

But treating Kirk like a Kennedy MadameButterfly Yesterday #28

Not a POTUS or Senator etc leftstreet Yesterday #29

It does. edhopper Yesterday #42

It ranks high because most everyone viewed it instead of just reading about it womanofthehills 20 hrs ago #87

Did I say it was good edhopper Yesterday #41

Pretty much said it ranked low on totem pole. But it's not that big a deal. If I remember, WW2 started with Silent Type Yesterday #44

That was WWI not WWII MLWR Yesterday #48

Who was heir to the throne Nasruddin Yesterday #72

Nah, it wasn't lonely bird 13 hrs ago #92

That was WWI edhopper Yesterday #54

Not quite accurate. Torchlight 10 hrs ago #97

He was not a small figure womanofthehills 18 hrs ago #88

It wasn't a "political killing" or a political assassination. It was an internecine battle between cults. erronis Yesterday #56

But it's looking like this wasn't even a political killing . . . markpkessinger Yesterday #63

Thank you. COL Mustard 13 hrs ago #90

There once was a time where people generally agreed that all ideas should be tested with 'exposure to sunlight' ClaudetteCC 11 hrs ago #95

Agree, although certainly the gun culture as a whole... ananda Yesterday #7

Our media is gone AStern Yesterday #8

The only national tragedy I see here is that ... pat_k Yesterday #9

I like your "perhaps every governor..." argument. calimary Yesterday #52

I'm writing a message to WA Gov Bob Ferguson's office pat_k Yesterday #60

I'd guess every outlet in the political online universe has somebody keeping an eye out. calimary Yesterday #66

I'm waiting for tsf to have his casket interred on the WH lawn. rubbersole Yesterday #10

We'll do a Cromwell on him once we take that house back. paleotn Yesterday #38

How 'bout the front gate... rubbersole Yesterday #80

They made it a huge deal because they thought it would be a good StarryNite Yesterday #11

They are looking for excuses to MadameButterfly Yesterday #30

Hell, they were desperate for him to be that! (n/t) OldBaldy1701E 15 hrs ago #89

My mom and dad voted for John Kennedy. That asshat was no John Kennedy Bengus81 Yesterday #12

The media mentions the trauma of his brutal murder Mtnmama Yesterday #14

"Why haven't we done anything to address the proliferation of weapons of mass destruction?" Dulcinea Yesterday #32

None of my family, neighbors or friends knew who he was before this week wishstar Yesterday #15

I consider myself fairly knowledgeable about politics in general. llmart Yesterday #64

time to spend the evening with a book NJCher Yesterday #16

I only saw it channel surfing edhopper Yesterday #19

I'm done with MSNBC and CNN AverageOldGuy Yesterday #22

I'm clinging to MSNBC with all its faults MadameButterfly Yesterday #33

AFAIAC, charlie kirk is already buried. lastlib Yesterday #23

Way over the top coverage for just one killing. Emile Yesterday #27

Well he was a big fish in the right wing sewer. Conjuay Yesterday #67

I assure you I have gone about my life very normally these last few days Justice Brandeis Yesterday #31

Um. Any relation? MadameButterfly Yesterday #34

I just saw a clip where Charlie Kirk said we need to bring back public executions, and they should be televised.. crimycarny Yesterday #39

YEP. Where was all this mourning and martyring when the two Dems and their dog ... CousinIT Yesterday #40

Well, the world lost an irreplaceable giant dalton99a Yesterday #43

CK is the victim of a MAGA civil war. Sneederbunk Yesterday #46

And there is certainly more coverage of this bullshit than there EVER is with mass school shootings. BigDemVoter Yesterday #47

Since the right wing controls most media now Diraven Yesterday #50

While it's true that in both cases there was zero chance of survival from the type of wounds... Montauk6 Yesterday #53

I can't even watch msnbc anymore kimbutgar Yesterday #55

I turned it off after the election too BlueSpot 23 hrs ago #83

Ah grasshopper, it is a tragedy that they call it a tragedy. twodogsbarking Yesterday #58

It's nauseating. nt mcar Yesterday #61

The tragedy EnergizedLib Yesterday #65

How is Kirk's death any different than the daily deaths, in America, from gun violence? dlk Yesterday #68

I tuned into the Bears-Pack game Hassler Yesterday #69

It's the sudden canonization of Kirk that I find nauseating. That he died tragically does not change that. SunSeeker Yesterday #70

40000 gun deaths a year and this was the BIG ONE? Give me a fucking break. NoMoreRepugs Yesterday #73

The first time that Republicans have responded to a school shooting RainCaster Yesterday #74

I'm genuinely pissed off at all the businesses, etc., flying the flag bullwinkle428 Yesterday #75

I don't know if I'd agree with that assessment. I can see the argument that it's a national tragedy in a couple ways. Jedi Guy Yesterday #78

Nope, not a national tragedy. Just another gun nut killing, and the person killed supported gun nuts. Martin68 Yesterday #82

It may well turn out to be a national tragedy soldierant 22 hrs ago #84

Yes. I just pleaded my spouse to turn off KCAL 9. C Moon 22 hrs ago #85

It is a national tragedy. Aussie105 20 hrs ago #86

No Not In The Least - and let me just point out one minor detail - Lokee11 13 hrs ago #91

Agreed. I remember much less outcry when Squeaky Fromme shot at Gerald Ford. no_hypocrisy 11 hrs ago #94

Kirk's death is absolutely simply one among thousands. BobTheSubgenius 10 hrs ago #98

I think... SickOfTheOnePct 10 hrs ago #99

Do you know think it warrants edhopper 9 hrs ago #103

No SickOfTheOnePct 4 hrs ago #113

Melissa Hortman. Scrivener7 9 hrs ago #100

It's Just the Unremarkable Death Of Yet Another Hatemonger MrWowWow 9 hrs ago #101

I never heard of him before this week. milestogo 9 hrs ago #104

This is part of the national tragedy... returnee 8 hrs ago #105

Except edhopper 8 hrs ago #107

That's the story... returnee 6 hrs ago #111

My neighbor, three doors down, has his American flag at half mast. Turbineguy 8 hrs ago #106

It is a litmus test. edhopper 8 hrs ago #108

There are 188 houses in our subdivision. Turbineguy 8 hrs ago #109

I'm glad to say I didn't waste one second watching any M$M coverage of any of it Blue Owl 7 hrs ago #110