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Ms. Toad

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59. He didn't have personal rights to the sword -
Fri Oct 3, 2025, 02:12 PM
4 hrs ago

But (first) he wasn't claiming it for himself. He was asking for it to give as a gift from the US to the British monarchy. The property of the US, including historical artifacts can be given as diplomatic gifts to leaders of foreign countries. This is not unusual. Follow the links I gave you, or do some research on your own.

(second) the head of the library can't be an accomplice if the sword was being given as a diplomatic gift - any more than when a decision is made to give any American artifact to a foreign dignitary as a diplomatic gift

(third) was it stealing when Biden took a leather folder of letters between Queen Elizabeth and Eisenhower to give King Charles as a gift in 2023?

The giving of US property to foreign dignitaries as diplomatic gifts is absolutely ordinary.

Trump's threats are trump's threats, Trying to coerce officials by the use of threats is just Trump being Trump. Reprehensible - but it doesn't turn an ordinary diplomatic act into attempted theft.

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If Ike were still alive, he would decapitate Trump with the f--- sword. nt doc03 10 hrs ago #1
I'd buy a ticket to see that live... or on Pay-per-View! QueerDuck 8 hrs ago #19
Then let the Traildogbob 7 hrs ago #32
I do believe that it is important to note that Hugo Chavez of Venezuela, when he was alive and crazy like trump Escurumbele 7 hrs ago #40
If Trump really wanted to make America great again and lose 15 pounds of ugly fat... iscooterliberally 5 hrs ago #52
And still brain dead fuckers would vote for him. GreenWave 4 hrs ago #63
Totally...utterly...OUT OF CONTROL NCDem47 10 hrs ago #2
He wants EVERYTHING and with each thing he takes, the emptiness inside just grows Attilatheblond 9 hrs ago #10
I cannot overstate how real your reple title is. ms liberty 7 hrs ago #35
Yes, literally out of control because he's lost touch with reality William Seger 8 hrs ago #16
He's psycho, pukes need to rein this motherfucker in Blues Heron 9 hrs ago #3
And the magas call that normal?................... Lovie777 9 hrs ago #4
Of course they think it normal, as he is God Emperor and everything is his for the taking at his slightest whim Celerity 9 hrs ago #6
The head of the library should not have resigned, people need to stop giving in to Trump's insane demands. sop 9 hrs ago #5
I believe he can still file a lawsuit and maybe get his job back FakeNoose 5 hrs ago #53
trump cares nothing about tradition and history... Wounded Bear 9 hrs ago #7
'Cause a guy who runs around in uniforms, and facing his last days really, really needs another sword. marble falls 9 hrs ago #8
If Krasnov doesn't get his way immediately, he throws a tantrum like a 2-year-old. MLWR 9 hrs ago #9
So whose bright idea was this? Did Charles indicate such? And how niyad 9 hrs ago #11
I suspect that Charles simply played to rump's malignant narcissism with flattery William Seger 8 hrs ago #18
That does not answer either question. niyad 7 hrs ago #38
Sorry, misplaced reply (nt) William Seger 5 hrs ago #56
Thank you. niyad 3 hrs ago #65
I read in another article earlier that it was Melania's idea and her that would not take no. Bev54 7 hrs ago #37
Now where in the world would she come up with that? Nothing that has ever niyad 7 hrs ago #39
King Charles would never have hinted at or requested such a thing. He's brighter & has 100% better manners... Hekate 1 hr ago #74
What a fucking baby. He is out of control and is burning America to the ground in part due to his madness. Botany 8 hrs ago #12
Why does anyone give in to this chump? ECL213 8 hrs ago #13
I don't get it either. NCDem47 8 hrs ago #17
Because he is a bully and a mob boss and makes credible threats about ruining the lives of anyone... Hekate 38 min ago #78
We all should keep an eye on Ft. Knox popsdenver 8 hrs ago #14
I thought the same thing. Where does the 24K gold trump brags about come from? Paper Roses 7 hrs ago #36
I like Ike. multigraincracker 8 hrs ago #15
Who cares about Eisenhower angrychair 8 hrs ago #20
What liberalgunwilltravel 8 hrs ago #25
Ike also liberalgunwilltravel 8 hrs ago #26
Can you document that accusation? GiqueCee 7 hrs ago #34
100% angrychair 7 hrs ago #42
Correlation is not causation... GiqueCee 6 hrs ago #46
That is a lot of assumptions angrychair 6 hrs ago #48
That was more about a propaganda war between "godless communism" vs. capitalism than promoting rightwing christianity. sop 53 min ago #76
What are you on about?? Citations, evidence, if you would, please. niyad 7 hrs ago #41
This is not a secret or obscure angrychair 7 hrs ago #43
Then kindly cite the documentation. Simply saying that it exists does niyad 7 hrs ago #44
Not sure what you mean angrychair 6 hrs ago #47
And that alone is the source of your seething and ignorant animus? Do better. Hekate 36 min ago #79
It goes back as far as the Civil War liberalgunwilltravel 6 hrs ago #45
Yes he was angrychair 6 hrs ago #49
I respectfully, disagree liberalgunwilltravel 2 hrs ago #67
You are free to believe as you wish angrychair 1 hr ago #70
It goes back a long way, perhaps further. The govt tried different iterations over the centuries... Hekate 33 min ago #81
To me, Dwight Eisenhower was the last good Republican president. Prof. Toru Tanaka 1 hr ago #73
I agree completely. My first memory of him is "I Like Ike" but that's a shadow compared to my memory of ... Hekate 46 min ago #77
What an incredibly ignorant statement Hekate 59 min ago #75
So now the Republicans are shitting on their very own former hero, Eisenhower Champp 8 hrs ago #21
When you are KING everything belongs to you by divine right. NoMoreRepugs 8 hrs ago #22
He should have "given" the sword to Trump liberalgunwilltravel 8 hrs ago #23
Ike was back when Republicans were honorable. Aristus 8 hrs ago #24
;-{) Goonch 8 hrs ago #27
Wish the Rebl2 8 hrs ago #28
Under the National Archives. Historic NY 8 hrs ago #29
The George H. W. Bush library in College Station is partially open. TexasTowelie 8 hrs ago #30
Yes it is closed with the shutdown. MuseRider 4 hrs ago #61
Here it says he was ousted. MuseRider 2 hrs ago #69
Infantile behavior. mn9driver 7 hrs ago #31
Krasnov is the ultimate POS! flashman13 7 hrs ago #33
Steal? Do you think presidents take things they own personally to give, as a diplomatic gift, to foreign dignitaries? Ms. Toad 5 hrs ago #50
What would you call it? gab13by13 5 hrs ago #54
Agreed. If TSF is involved,it is always steal. Sneederbunk 5 hrs ago #55
He didn't have personal rights to the sword - Ms. Toad 4 hrs ago #59
Maybe I will try going to a bank teller gab13by13 4 hrs ago #60
Do you really not understand that the gift is from the American people to the British people? Ms. Toad 4 hrs ago #62
Artifacts owned by the US government Buzz cook 3 hrs ago #64
Presidential libraries and their content belong to the American people. Ms. Toad 3 hrs ago #66
Thanks for the correction. Buzz cook 29 min ago #82
It will not belong to him - Ms. Toad 11 min ago #84
Trump giving away priceless objects STOLEN from the American people. Irish_Dem 5 hrs ago #51
I think of what Rummy said gab13by13 5 hrs ago #57
Trump is moving priceless US artifacts to his secret warehouses. Irish_Dem 5 hrs ago #58
The director of the library has been ousted. MuseRider 2 hrs ago #68
unbelievable. He is truly sick & stupid. nt ecstatic 1 hr ago #71
GASP! A criminal president commits a crime?! sakabatou 1 hr ago #72
The King of England has enough fucking swords. maxsolomon 35 min ago #80
Odds are, Krasnov would've pocketed the original and gifted Charles a FAKE anyway. B.See 15 min ago #83
I'm surprised Krasnov didn't demand, "Off with his head!" nt Ilsa 2 min ago #85
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