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ecstatic

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59. I used to think that, but now, I think they know EXACTLY what they're doing
Sat Oct 4, 2025, 12:36 PM
3 hrs ago

And who they voted for.

Half of tRump's voters are out and proud, the other half try to hide their vote because they know they supported someone evil and it's socially unacceptable.

I put it like this: I think about how I'd handle things if someone confronted me about something Biden allegedly did. First, if I had not heard of that particular action, I'd verify the claim through a credible source. Then, if it's true, I would either explain why the action was necessary, or, if I didn't support the action, I would agree with the opinion that it was not a good move.

It's the complete opposite when it comes to tRump voters. If you confront them with the truth, they play all sorts of games: The closeted half gets to escape accountability entirely. The half that is willing to admit they voted for trump will lie, deny, deflect, gaslight or play ignorant--never taking responsibility.

I've been thinking about this topic more now that I'm working with more trumpets. One lady had the nerve to bring up supporting tRump and said he's cleaning up this country. I felt like she was intentionally trying to trigger me. Why would you bring up tRump in a professional setting? So I simply said, trump should release the epstein files. Her response was to start naming all these people who are supposedly in the epstein files - she named Beyonce, and a number of other black celebrities. 🙄 I said, I don't give a damn who's in the files, just release them so that all of them can be held accountable. Whoever they may be. She said something to the effect of all politicians and Hollywood actors are pedophiles. Huh?

It was a weird and disturbing argument she was making. But it's clarifying. Just say that you don't give a fuck that trump's a pedophile rapist who is openly obstructing justice for the victims. Don't spout bullshit about everyone else doing the same thing because that's not true. If it were true, then they should be held accountable too, whether I'm a fan of theirs or not. It's that simple.

Another trumper, an immigrant himself, had the nerve to say that trump is only going after and deporting violent criminals. Despite being a major eLoon fanboy, this is a smart guy who is aware of a lot of breaking news. How is it that he's well informed about all these other topics but he conveniently doesn't know about troops being deployed on American streets? He also claims to not know about the scandal where tRump tried to steal votes in Georgia. And we live in Georgia! GMAFB!

If you listen closely to trumpers, resentment always starts to spill out in conversation. They start slowly slipping in "innocent" comments about different groups of people - the Indians, the Arabs, the Mexicans, etc. I'm black, so they won't mention "the blacks" when talking to me. 🙄 They know how to adjust their talking points for the room they're in.

Even non-white trump supporters have the same type of grievances and in conversation you'll notice that they frequently stereotype people by race and country of origin. It's a major part of their ideology.

So, no, I don't believe these are people who are innocent victims of a conman. These are people who are full of resentment, envy, and anger towards their fellow Americans and immigrants. They enjoy the suffering that we're all witnessing. As long as it's not them, they're fine with it.

As far as the best way to get them out of the cult? I'm not sure. The only thing that works with these people is when they are personally under attack. That's when they see the light.

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I fully blame Krasnov voters for everything superpatriotman 7 hrs ago #1
I totally agree Abstractartist 6 hrs ago #7
Kamala Harris was "too over the top"?! MIButterfly 6 hrs ago #23
Again Abstractartist 4 hrs ago #45
No, Kamala is a black female. Gimpyknee 4 hrs ago #51
And that's not one but TWO strikes. calimary 3 hrs ago #66
Exactly. They chose is TWICE. hamsterjill 5 hrs ago #28
They chose it THREE times, in most cases. nt Wednesdays 5 hrs ago #30
You're right. hamsterjill 5 hrs ago #32
I have been harassing a guy in my neighborhood Give Peace A Chance 5 hrs ago #34
I can forgive their 2016 vote but after J6? After the way he politicized the pandemic? No fucking way. CrispyQ 7 hrs ago #2
Yup, fuck all of them at this point! Initech 3 hrs ago #53
Makes sense 👍 TommieMommy 6 hrs ago #3
The orange one is a reflection of his voters. Their hate for Dems & Libs flows up from them and out through him. Hotler 6 hrs ago #4
I'm not convinced that immigrants are Democrats or liberals, they're just looking for a better life FakeNoose 6 hrs ago #19
And, a sizeable chunk of the immigrant community who are already here (notably Cubans,Venezualans), Ars Longa 35 min ago #74
Many of them didn't know what they were voting for MadameButterfly 6 hrs ago #5
I used to feel that way, but I've changed. yardwork 6 hrs ago #8
Everything you say is true MadameButterfly 6 hrs ago #11
I don't know. yardwork 6 hrs ago #15
First Rush Limbaugh, then Fox News, now internet bubble pattyloutwo 5 hrs ago #35
They're more comfortable. They feel more entitled. haele 5 hrs ago #37
This is so, so true. Zackzzzz 3 hrs ago #63
The blue collar democrats in WV were coal miners. The cosl is Meadowoak 4 hrs ago #46
I agree the low information voters have been fooled into believing a pack of lies Martin Eden 5 hrs ago #31
Do not start denigrating Democrats. llmart 5 hrs ago #43
they knew exactly who/what/why they voted for Trump... agingdem 3 hrs ago #69
I agree. yardwork 6 hrs ago #6
THIS!!! !!! !!! calimary 3 hrs ago #54
They are dumber than dumb and nasty hateful people. Get a brain, morans! Dave Bowman 6 hrs ago #9
Great minds think alike JustAnotherGen 6 hrs ago #10
The ciritcal problem with authoritarianism MadameButterfly 6 hrs ago #12
Well.... it's not just the Trump voters. The "leave-it-blank" folks (and those who promoted it)... QueerDuck 6 hrs ago #13
Very important point for anti-Trump activists RandomNumbers 5 hrs ago #38
Um. No. SSJVegeta 6 hrs ago #14
We gave them a viable and clearly better alternative. yardwork 6 hrs ago #16
Oh please Keepthesoulalive 5 hrs ago #39
Sorry, none of them will get any love from me. I can't/won't do it Meadowoak 4 hrs ago #47
I used to think that, but now, I think they know EXACTLY what they're doing ecstatic 3 hrs ago #59
Given the conistecy of both their action as well as reactionsm, that seems rather naive. Torchlight 3 hrs ago #67
They couldn't lift a finger to inform themselves after TEN FUCKING YEARS of this idiot and his entourage . . . . hatrack 3 hrs ago #68
How did they miss this, and how was that not enough? RandomNumbers 1 hr ago #72
My general reply to the replies: SSJVegeta 1 hr ago #73
Hear, Hear Mr. Bateman! As an aside we've been watching Black Rabbit and HOLY SHIT AZJonnie 6 hrs ago #17
You should do a commericial. I will watch. Ozark was great. Great that he speaks out. twodogsbarking 6 hrs ago #20
Let's just say I'd be surprised to hear of any Ozark fan not welcoming this show with open arms AZJonnie 5 hrs ago #26
I was thinking of watching. Swede 6 hrs ago #21
You might want to cross post that in the Netflix/Streaming forum if you haven't already. llmart 4 hrs ago #44
Someone else already mentioned it in that forum a little bit ago AZJonnie 4 hrs ago #48
Also responsible: smug, ignorant "both sides are the same" types not fooled 6 hrs ago #18
I Knew A Guy Like That ProfessorGAC 2 hrs ago #70
Well, a LOT of them didn't seem to 'realize' what they were 'voting for'...... Jack Valentino 6 hrs ago #22
Exactly. Joinfortmill 6 hrs ago #24
He didn't "REDUCE PRICES ON DAY ONE"--- so they ought to Jack Valentino 6 hrs ago #25
Or we can keep ranting and raving at democrats. BootinUp 5 hrs ago #27
Waiting for a guest to make Joe Rogan own Johonny 5 hrs ago #29
77 million Americans. People I can never trust. CaptainTruth 5 hrs ago #33
Absolutely! Owl 5 hrs ago #36
They always pretend to not know about these things ecstatic 5 hrs ago #40
Cowards who won't admit they love such things done to people they irrationally hate. paleotn 5 hrs ago #42
I remember I had an exchange with a wingnut dipshit last year on like reddit or X or something AZJonnie 3 hrs ago #57
Exactly! ecstatic 3 hrs ago #60
Trump voters are the scum of the earth paleotn 5 hrs ago #41
Swede........... Upthevibe 4 hrs ago #49
Hell YAS!!! It's about time. Envirogal 4 hrs ago #50
I've been calling out his voters since 2016! Initech 4 hrs ago #52
The ones who didn't vote at all are just as complicit. GoCubsGo 3 hrs ago #55
Yes and yes. My local NPR station in Chicago was begging for donations this morning, funding was cut Beringia 3 hrs ago #56
While he has criticized Trump recently this is another false attribution meme. BannonsLiver 3 hrs ago #58
Is there any evidence of him saying this? fujiyamasan 3 hrs ago #61
No. I can't find these quotes. He did speak about Trump voters insulating themselves from facts underpants 3 hrs ago #65
No. See my OP here: demmiblue 2 hrs ago #71
I thought r/leopardseatingfaces was a thing sakabatou 3 hrs ago #62
If they did it for Jesus, don't even try. It is always the ONLY way. CTyankee 3 hrs ago #64
🛑 ❌ Folks, there's no proof he said these quotes ❌🛑 underpants 24 min ago #75
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