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dickthegrouch

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95. Plus which it would be hard for them to describe the persons or things

Wed Oct 29, 2025, 01:24 PM

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Full text of the fourth amendment is

The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects,[a] against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

I'm not an attorney but I read the highlighted part as needing to describe each of the things (userIDs) to be described (accurately) in any such subpoena. Since fishing expeditions have hitherto been discouraged, I think that would be difficult. A blanket "give us all your user names" would be too general and unenforceable IMHO.

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