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Chemical Bill

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123. Perhaps you stopped reading...

Thu Nov 6, 2025, 08:44 PM

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before the Franklin County, Ohio precinct with 638 voters that had 4258 votes for W. You might be interested in what Stephen Spoonamore had to say., but that's a long way down as well. There's a link to more problems with the 2004 presidential election in Ohio, this was well covered in The Conyers Report.

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My Spidey senses are acting up [View all] Aviation Pro Nov 5 OP

No I think Americans got a wake up call Bluestocking Nov 5 #1

Correct. The facts of 2025 trump the propaganda of 2024. . . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Nov 5 #2

This message was self-deleted by its author off-the-clock Thursday #126

Disagree. NoRethugFriends Nov 5 #5

My theory is they don't fuck with the special elections and off-year elections, because yellow dahlia Nov 5 #19

Or did Musk tell dumpie he wasn't going to help him anymore? KS Toronado Nov 5 #40

Another possibility. yellow dahlia Nov 5 #42

Oh absolutely PatSeg Nov 5 #50

We don't get to "rest easy" for awhile. yellow dahlia Nov 5 #63

Yes and once we are back in power, PatSeg Nov 5 #75

Yes! yellow dahlia Nov 5 #77

For sure! Chemical Bill Nov 5 #64

Yes, the whole voter suppression PatSeg Nov 5 #76

This is is why I feel like we have to start today, preparing people to vote Alice B. Thursday #95

Why didn't they fix the Lake/Gallego race in AZ? BannonsLiver Nov 5 #58

Because they had facts this time they didn't have last time. Bernardo de La Paz Thursday #84

Agreed. It was a real confluence of bad stuff Hekate Nov 5 #3

I agree, just like there was in 2020 obamanut2012 Nov 5 #4

And we know they tried. Chemical Bill Nov 5 #65

Here's some data Richluu Nov 5 #6

not really data, but a complicated theory... and if Musk had this magic control LymphocyteLover Friday #148

Honestly I'd point fingers at Texas and Florida for starters. Initech Nov 5 #7

you'd have to be a damn fool to think NJCher Nov 5 #8

"They lost because I wasn't on the ballot" tinrobot Nov 5 #14

Yep Blue_Roses Nov 5 #21

That is my assumption... returnee Thursday #88

Vote tampering ms.pamela Nov 5 #9

I'd like to see voting machines made illegal KS Toronado Nov 5 #56

I agree. but... returnee Thursday #89

That was always obvious. ananda Nov 5 #10

Absolutely Chemical Bill Nov 5 #11

But they just forgot to steal a single race this time? tritsofme Nov 5 #12

It would be hard to cover up in elections of this nature IMHO. n/t rzemanfl Nov 5 #15

Polls showed a close election in New Jersey, Virginia AG race too. Why not steal one? tritsofme Nov 5 #17

Out of 50 states, how many had elections yesterday? rzemanfl Nov 5 #25

33 states had elections yesterday. Wiz Imp Nov 5 #32

Many. There were a lot of local elections. yellow dahlia Nov 5 #33

Why are you asking Democrats? Chemical Bill Nov 5 #30

I'm just asking folks choosing to push ridiculous Trump-style conspiracy theories. tritsofme Nov 5 #36

Yeah, Chemical Bill Nov 5 #66

There were no national elections. hurple Nov 5 #20

So they can steal the presidency but not a Virginia AG race? Pretty lousy supervillains. tritsofme Nov 5 #22

I know, right? It's clear that it's not just MAGAs who are capable of convincing themselves Wiz Imp Nov 5 #27

What's in it for the supervillains to have the AG of Virginia in their camp? rzemanfl Nov 5 #29

The focus on Republicans being massively unpopular losers isn't exactly good for business. tritsofme Nov 5 #35

A Republican AG n Virginia could effectively block a lot of progressive legislation which Wiz Imp Nov 5 #49

I think you are giving this Republican AG magical powers. rzemanfl Nov 5 #71

Yes. That is my theory. yellow dahlia Nov 5 #34

eLoon got what he wanted, no need to help this time ecstatic Thursday #82

Not close enough tintinvotes Thursday #85

Sounds like many have adopted Trump's axiom as their own, that elections are only legitimate when I win. tritsofme Thursday #86

Not worth the risk of detection; plus maintain illusion of democracy. Possible. Nt lostnfound Thursday #122

It's being discussed here, in a public forum. Why would detection be a concern in your conspiracy theory? tritsofme Thursday #125

You misunderstood me and misrepresent my POV in last paragraph "as a vicious attack" lostnfound Friday #135

Don't you hate it when people put words in your mouth? yellow dahlia Friday #141

The judge's ruling in the Rockland County 2024 election fraud case is due before 11/11. in2herbs Nov 5 #13

Mine too, for a different reason. The more it looks like the US is turning on the WH and GOP, the more wiggs Nov 5 #16

Yes Blue_Roses Nov 5 #18

Yep. It was stolen by the muskrat... MaeScott Nov 5 #23

Then why didn't those same people "fuck around with the vote" this year? Wiz Imp Nov 5 #24

How do you know they didn't? Chemical Bill Nov 5 #31

OMG. I can't believe I'm reading such nonsense here. Wiz Imp Nov 5 #44

It's just difficult for me to accept that folks can be that plain stupid. tritsofme Nov 5 #55

I think it comes from people who can't wrap their heads around how much the country had soured on incumbents last year. BannonsLiver Nov 5 #59

there is also a basic inability (unwillingness) for people to admit stopdiggin Thursday #102

Proof of a declaration is immaterial? Chemical Bill Nov 5 #62

Yes. Virtually any declaration issuing forth from THIS individual stopdiggin Thursday #97

It is more difficult to pull off in the off-year and smaller elections, and special elections. yellow dahlia Nov 5 #41

No. Absolutely not. PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 5 #26

Voting machines were compromised. Blue Full Moon Nov 5 #48

I'm sorry, but I'm going with "our elections are honest." PoindexterOglethorpe Nov 5 #54

Have you read The Conyers Report? Chemical Bill Nov 5 #67

I'm with you. A lot! yellow dahlia Nov 5 #28

So elections are only rigged when Democrats lose? Wiz Imp Nov 5 #46

I don't think Dems cheat. And, Trump ALWAYS cheats Joinfortmill Thursday #106

Right. You could begin every sentence with Trump always cheats. yellow dahlia Friday #142

Agree Blue Full Moon Nov 5 #37

I'm persuaded by Greg Palast's work: markodochartaigh Nov 5 #38

Or it could be that voters in these states got a wake up call over the last few months fujiyamasan Nov 5 #39

I was thinking the same goddamned thing Blue Owl Nov 5 #43

Is this being reported by the media? NoNameGranny Nov 5 #45

People where just angry at Trump/ICE/Gop's bs SunImp Nov 5 #47

It's worth pointing out again that 2024 election denialism is actually a vicious attack on Kamala Harris and the entire tritsofme Nov 5 #51

Off year elections would serve as pacification for anyone thinking the general elections contain malware ffr Nov 5 #52

No RandySF Nov 5 #53

Harris won. End of story. Botany Nov 5 #57

There definitely were massive voter suppression efforts, massive propaganda operations LymphocyteLover Nov 5 #61

The vote flipping and deletions was done not at the precinct levels of which you are right would be unwork-... Botany Nov 5 #70

you don't think anyone in the secretary of Dem state offices of Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania LymphocyteLover Nov 5 #74

Good questions, Botany Thursday #91

couldn't that surge just be actual voters (since more Repubs tend to vote on election day)? LymphocyteLover Friday #132

A large surge of red voters from a large strongly blue voting population @ the last minute? Please. Botany Friday #134

All the obvious anecdotes match up to all the simple math. yellow dahlia Friday #143

A simple bell shaped curve for statical analysis will easily show causality behind the election results. Botany Saturday #150

There you go! Seems simple when you look at the mathematical models. yellow dahlia Saturday #152

please provide a specific example of that kind of red surge in a blue area LymphocyteLover Friday #147

You think someone from the sos office at the state level looks at every precinct result to see if it matches? questionseverything Thursday #120

No, but wouldn't someone at the county level do that? Or are they in on the plot? LymphocyteLover Friday #131

I sorry. But it NEVER happened. stopdiggin Thursday #98

I hear you... Chemical Bill Nov 5 #69

Musk had the technology. yellow dahlia Nov 5 #79

this is repeated by a lot of people that have no idea what the 'technology' is stopdiggin Thursday #103

. Chemical Bill Thursday #112

are you offering this as some species of 'evidence'? stopdiggin Thursday #119

Perhaps you stopped reading... Chemical Bill Thursday #123

Yawn. It really isn't worth my good time. (while repeating, "this is evidence ..?" ) - -(nt)- stopdiggin Thursday #124

Interesting. Chemical Bill Friday #140

Any election Democrats lose is rigged. iemanja Nov 5 #60

Pretty tiring isn't it? fujiyamasan Thursday #83

it's just plain sad. !!! - -(nt)- stopdiggin Thursday #100

. Chemical Bill Thursday #116

I dunno Cirsium Nov 5 #68

Agree. MorbidButterflyTat Nov 5 #72

They will intensify efforts to disenfranchise... WestMichRad Nov 5 #73

In '26, and '28 we need the brightest, wileyest White Hat Hackers keeping all eyes on the votes & totals, tabulaters etc electric_blue68 Nov 5 #78

Yes. yellow dahlia Thursday #111

my theory AncientOfDays Thursday #80

Exactly. yellow dahlia Thursday #113

DITTO!! BadGimp Thursday #81

They've proved it already but have trouble selling it SupportSanity Thursday #87

My gut's about the same Torchlight Thursday #90

Based on what? themaguffin Thursday #92

The economy is being wrecked, people feel it. BlueTsunami2018 Thursday #93

Why didn't fElon help this time? Clouds Passing Thursday #94

I don't think so. It just took a year or two of Trump in full swing to get out the vote, and persuade even many Martin68 Thursday #96

I'm sorry - but it NEVER happened. And your twitchy 'senses' are leading you astray. stopdiggin Thursday #99

I thought so too. I felt that way after Pennsylvania and Michigan went to Trump. It doesn't make sense. OLDMDDEM Thursday #101

Like in 2024 obnoxiousdrunk Thursday #104

Yup. Joinfortmill Thursday #105

Same thing happened 8 years ago krawhitham Thursday #107

And then they forget how bad he is? n/t Chemical Bill Friday #130

Eforensic analysis says something aint right angryxyouth Thursday #108

So since this is all so clearly documented and proven, you must be accusing Kamala of knowing tritsofme Thursday #117

Yes I am angryxyouth Friday #136

At least you're honest, this contempt and hatred for Harris and Democrats appears widespread among election deniers tritsofme Friday #137

Sometimes the truth hurts angryxyouth Monday #153

Yes. "They" use Russian-type psy-ops to convince people not to question elections, yellow dahlia Friday #144

Don't worry. Most of us realize that this is in NO way an attack on Dems. yellow dahlia Thursday #121

It is absolutely a vicious attack on Democrats. You must believe truly terrible things about Kamala Harris and Democrats tritsofme Friday #133

The problem is the premise is flawed fujiyamasan Friday #145

Interestingly... Chemical Bill Friday #146

That's one way to look at it, and I believe it to be true jmowreader Thursday #109

Right. The analysis is easy. yellow dahlia Thursday #114

Wonder why trump and Elon didn't hack Tuesday's election? Silent Type Thursday #110

Not worth it jmowreader Thursday #115

Didn't happen in 2024 either. We lost. Was hoping Conspiracy Theories would stop, but nope. Silent Type Thursday #118

Exactly. Analysis needs to be applied to the circumstances at the moment. yellow dahlia Friday #138

I absolutely think that 2024 was stolen Metaphorical Thursday #127

So simple and so obvious. yellow dahlia Friday #139

Republicans are saying the same thing about Tuesday Polybius Friday #128

you'd be surprised just how much sexism / racism played into it Skittles Friday #129

Does that same logic apply to the 2010 elections? EdmondDantes_ Friday #149

Alot! Clouds Passing Saturday #151