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paleotn

(21,155 posts)
23. We're all immigrants. Many came willingly. Some did not.
Fri Nov 7, 2025, 08:46 PM
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Oh, but bar room guy's immigrant ancestors were the "good immigrants", not those new ones.

Reminds me of when I was young and my uncle, one of the family historians, set me straight. Early 80's. I'm young and stupid, and I made a nasty comment about Iranians in the US who'd fled the Iranian Revolution. My uncle informed me they are Persians.

To paraphrase his admonishment..."Yeah, that Persia. From the Bible. Iran. Persia. Same thing. They had one of the most advanced civilizations on earth when OUR people were running around in rags, living in smoky stone hovels, stealing each others cattle for sport. So show a little respect. Some of our border ancestors, reivers, English and Scots, were part of organized gangs of thieves, extortionists and murderers. A family tradition for some. So don't start talking about Sicilians either. Our people were tribal. Even for a while after they immigrated, or like our Jacobite ancestors, "transported" to the colonies as punishment."

Guess he didn't buy Sir Walter Scott's whitewashing.

Whether our people immigrated in 1690 or 2019, we all came here for just about the same reasons. None are any better than the rest. Some got dragged here in chains. I love immigrants. I am one too.

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