General Discussion

yardwork

(68,554 posts)

6. Our two party system is a barrier in so many ways.

Sat Nov 8, 2025, 09:39 AM

Saturday

It's too bad our Congress doesn't have coalitions of many parties. There are several positives about that system:

1. Voters can choose parties that align more closely with their views. The Republican Party might not have gone MAGA if right wing voters had had a Tea Party to vote for.

2. Americans might have a better understanding of the political process if they watched a bunch of minority parties have to form coalition governments.

Edit history

Please sign in to view edit histories.

Recommendations

4 members have recommended this reply (displayed in chronological order):

peppertree susanr516 vanessa_ca thought crime

118 replies

= new reply since forum marked as read

Highlight:

Zohran Mandani did not vote for himself on the Democratic Party line on election day. [View all] lapucelle Saturday OP

Seems reasonable to me. yardwork Saturday #1

Yes, I saw it as a way of saying thank you. ananda Saturday #97

Nothing wrong with that SocialDemocrat61 Saturday #2

Our two party system is a barrier in so many ways. yardwork Saturday #6

It really isn't. W_HAMILTON Saturday #27

They align with Dems edhopper Saturday #44

And therefore Mamdani voting Democratic would not have impacted them much... W_HAMILTON Saturday #56

The WFPis not divisive edhopper Saturday #58

Again, I'm not criticizing WFP here -- I'm criticizing Mamdani's response to a loaded question. W_HAMILTON Saturday #68

I see. edhopper Saturday #86

More parties might lead to more pressure to BlueKota Saturday #30

The requirement to hold informal coalitions together is a huge flaw thought crime Sunday #118

Yes I usually WFP on next office down. IbogaProject Saturday #34

If it were against Andrew Cuomo SocialDemocrat61 Saturday #40

So what? NoRethugFriends Saturday #3

Don't care. Happy Hoosier Saturday #4

This was one of his first tests as mayor-elect and he did not pass. W_HAMILTON Saturday #46

I think you're reading way too much into this. yardwork Saturday #98

Feel free to bookmark my post and check back around this time next year. W_HAMILTON Saturday #109

Glad he won, but just as much as it pisses me off that so many Democratic leaders didn't endorse him or Scrivener7 Saturday #5

I disagree. yardwork Saturday #9

The disloyalty of "leave it blank" was a big consideration for some who delayed or who gave a perfunctory endorsement. QueerDuck Saturday #15

Schumer should have SocialDemocrat61 Saturday #26

Mamdani did not get President Obama's endorsement. lapucelle Saturday #43

Looks like Obama made the right decision after this report about Mamdani. W_HAMILTON Saturday #47

I thought he was smart enough to follow the AOC path, the one leading to a future in politics. betsuni Saturday #80

AOC seemed to learn relatively early on that you have to work with others to accomplish anything in a democracy. W_HAMILTON Saturday #87

Has Obama endorsed a candidate before? SocialDemocrat61 Saturday #49

Yes. President Obama endorsed Bill de Blasio in 2013 and Bill Thompson in 2009. lapucelle Saturday #63

When was President SocialDemocrat61 Saturday #69

You asked whether Obama has ever endorsed a NYC mayoral candidate "before". The answer is "yes". lapucelle Saturday #76

Yes he did SocialDemocrat61 Saturday #81

Obama has integrity. He's an honorable man... QueerDuck Saturday #95

If ANY Democratic leader is directly asked what they think of ANY Democratic primary winner, the endorsement should be Scrivener7 Saturday #71

Does that include Tom Suozzi SocialDemocrat61 Saturday #73

After their next primary, if the Democratic voters in their district have spoken and chosen them? Yes it does. Scrivener7 Saturday #75

No but this is SocialDemocrat61 Saturday #77

Yes. He was. And as I said, I don't like him not voting in the Dem line. Scrivener7 Saturday #78

Cool SocialDemocrat61 Saturday #83

That's nice. Scrivener7 Saturday #84

Thanks SocialDemocrat61 Saturday #88

OMG how dare he!!!! JonAndKatePlusABird Saturday #7

OK markodochartaigh Saturday #8

I was a huge fan of Mario Cuomo BlueKota Saturday #35

If markodochartaigh Saturday #89

No he did not. BlueKota Saturday #99

I think he forgot the sarcasm tag IbogaProject Saturday #36

And............? Nanjeanne Saturday #10

Freedom for supporters of the government only, for members of one party only Ping Tung Saturday #11

Hasn't Bernie been doing this for years? nt Wounded Bear Saturday #12

Sanders runs in the primary unopposed as a Democrat and then declines the nomination. lapucelle Saturday #14

Gaming the system? Or a middle finger to the party? QueerDuck Saturday #16

Whatever. The people in his state seem to be OK with it... Wounded Bear Saturday #17

This message was self-deleted by its author QueerDuck Saturday #18

For now, yes. But I think it sets a bad example and only serves to weaken the party in the long run. QueerDuck Saturday #19

If there is one lesson we need to take from Tuesday's victories... Wounded Bear Saturday #23

National politics are not local. Third parties are spoilers that weaken and divide and benefit the GOP. QueerDuck Saturday #31

Didn't even have to look to figure out this one's favorite group NoRethugFriends Saturday #72

Seriously?? Why the contempt for the Democratic party? He used the party machinery to run for office... QueerDuck Saturday #13

The WFP edhopper Saturday #21

Oh brother... the "would you rather" type of evasive response generally indicates a position of weakness... QueerDuck Saturday #29

No edhopper Saturday #38

Unless, of course, they accidently run Republicans in general elections. lapucelle Saturday #52

No. What they are saying is "the Democrats are not worth your vote." It depresses turnout and... QueerDuck Saturday #53

You are wrong edhopper Saturday #59

What contempt? Can you show me the contempt on this doll? Is the contempt in the room with us right now? Iggo Saturday #66

HA! 🤣😂🤪 QueerDuck Saturday #70

I also voted for him edhopper Saturday #20

Last year the NYS WFP accidently nominated a Republican spoiler lapucelle Saturday #23

accidently edhopper Saturday #41

So folks need to be careful who they vote for on the WFP's ballot line. lapucelle Saturday #45

A lot of assumbtions there edhopper Saturday #50

What assumptions are there? lapucelle Saturday #57

If the vote does not benefit the Democrat, then it benefits the Republican. QueerDuck Saturday #110

The WFP did not nominate Frascone Quiet Em Saturday #96

Republican Francone was the WFP nominee in the 2024 general election. That's a simple fact. lapucelle Saturday #103

The Republicans gamed the system. I'll agree with that. Quiet Em Saturday #108

NYWFP puts in a lot of the ground work to get Democrats elected in New York State Quiet Em Saturday #22

I'm a DNC member in NYS. I know all about the Working Family Party and what they do lapucelle Saturday #37

Do you think they did more to get Mamdani elected than actual Democrats? W_HAMILTON Saturday #39

I think they play a role in helping elect Democrats in NYS. Quiet Em Saturday #48

I don't fault WFP for what they did -- I fault Mamdani for what he did, or at least his answer to the question. W_HAMILTON Saturday #54

I don't know. Quiet Em Saturday #62

please notice that politico says it was stated by Mamdani's campaign niyad Saturday #92

I do know that. And that is the same as coming from Mamdani himself. Hence "spokesman." W_HAMILTON Saturday #93

Since it is politico, I would want to hear from Mayor-elect Mamdani himself. niyad Saturday #94

So he'd be in violation of TOS if he tried to post here Shrek Saturday #25

How would he be in violation? niyad Saturday #28

Members are required to support Democrats Shrek Saturday #32

And again, I say how? He is not attacking Democrats. niyad Saturday #42

How? Emile Saturday #33

"not a good look" this is a message board my dude WhiskeyGrinder Saturday #60

I don't think that's loyal enough to our party gulliver Saturday #51

So, How Does Anyone Know That? MineralMan Saturday #55

Politico's Albany reporter attributes the information to a Mamdani campaign spokesperson. lapucelle Saturday #74

It's a thing in NY that people who support the WFP vote on that line because if they Raftergirl Saturday #61

I'm well aware of the WFP machinations in NYS. They ran "Leave It Blank" in the Democratic presidential primary in 2024. lapucelle Saturday #90

Wow, what a surprise. Nixie Saturday #64

Yep...don't care. Iggo Saturday #65

We also have a Conservative Party in NY and every R is also cross endorsed with them. So some people choose Raftergirl Saturday #67

The Conservative Party did not cross-endorse the Republican candidate for mayor in 2025. lapucelle Saturday #91

Not always cross endorsed but often. All the R's in my town election were crossed endorsed by Conservative Party. Raftergirl Saturday #100

So it is not true that "every R is also cross endorsed with [the Consevative Party candidate], lapucelle Saturday #104

Ok. Most R's are cross endorsed. Better? Raftergirl Saturday #105

Absolutely better. It's important to keep track of what third parties are actually up to, lapucelle Saturday #107

I voted all on third party in my county here Historic NY Saturday #79

Innnteresting. Seems like this thread did what it was intended to do. Scrivener7 Saturday #82

ADL creates new 'Mamdani Monitor' project to track his administration policies Ping Tung Saturday #85

Under the guise of fighting hate speech, the ADL has a long history of attacking Arab, Black, and queer people. Celerity Saturday #101

Agreed. And, they're making very little effort to hide their own bigotry. Ping Tung Saturday #102

Fuck terrorist-adjacent Emmaia Gelman and her anti-ADL screed. lapucelle Saturday #106

Canary Mission: Trump officials used shadowy website to target pro-Palestinian academics for deportation, court Celerity Saturday #111

It's a disgusting very unAmerican McCarthyite Hate Site vanessa_ca Saturday #112

Yes, it is dismaying to see it pushed here. Celerity Saturday #113

The vile celebration of the October 7 slaughter comes staight from vile terrorist-adjacent Emmaia Gelman's Instagram lapucelle Saturday #116

I don't care one way or the other but I bet that is bullshit. Demsrule86 Saturday #114

NYS has a fusion voting system. A candidate can appear on more than one ballot line. lapucelle Saturday #117

Don't care orangecrush Saturday #115