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angrychair

(11,468 posts)
Sun Nov 9, 2025, 04:11 PM Sunday

Senate Democrats to Cave to Republicans [View all]

Last edited Sun Nov 9, 2025, 08:05 PM - Edit history (4)

The emerging deal would include a stopgap measure to extend government funding until January and be tied to a larger package to fully fund several key agencies.

The deal would not include an extension of the expiring enhanced Affordable Care Act subsidies — a key Democratic demand — but it would guarantee a vote in the Senate on the issue at a later date.


This is incredibly disappointing. I am at a lose for words. Why would they they do this?!?

There are no assurances that the extension of ACA subsidies would become law.


Without the subsidies the entire healthcare system will collapse. That is not my opinion but a fact.
We cannot allow our party to cave like this. This will ruin our midterm chances.


Source: https://www.cnn.com/2025/11/09/politics/government-shutdown-reopen-deal-senate

Update:
Axios states that there is a potential for a vote of extending the subsidies for a year but the vote would not occur until December and it would require a 60 vote margin and still not guarantee that Mango Mussolini would sign it.

Source: https://www.axios.com/2025/11/09/senate-deal-to-end-government-shutdown-sunday-vote

2nd UPDATE:
Deal seems to be met with less enthusiasm by Democrats than Republicans.

Senator Bernie Sanders, the Vermont independent who caucuses with Democrats, said as he headed into the meeting that “it would be a policy and political disaster” to vote to reopen the government without a guarantee.

Senator Elissa Slotkin, Democrat of Michigan, who was initially involved in the bipartisan talks, also did not sound inclined to back a deal. “I always said, we’ve got to do something concrete on health care, and it’s hard to see how that happened,” she said.

Source: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2025/11/09/us/trump-news#government-shutdown-senate-vote

Final update
Senators have reached a deal to end the government shutdown.

The agreement, which was negotiated in part by Sens. Angus King, Jeanne Shaheen and Maggie Hassan as well as GOP senators, has “more than enough” members of the Senate Democratic Caucus to advance, according to two people granted anonymity to disclose the terms.

Not sure where to go from here. Democratic Party is screwed.

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Gawd I hope not! SheltieLover Sunday #1
It would be a f'ing disaster! Bobstandard Sunday #18
CNN not known for their reporting integrity. I do hope this is CNN just publicly jacking off again. NotHardly Sunday #21
I updated my OP angrychair Sunday #44
That is not a deal. It is a surrender. Demsrule86 Sunday #115
I did a second update to OP angrychair Sunday #118
I've read otherwise.................. Lovie777 Sunday #2
Just going by this article angrychair Sunday #5
Where? All I have seen with google searches is TBF Sunday #79
Will they ever learn? You can't negotiate with Lucy to kick the football at a "later date" rsdsharp Sunday #3
If the Senate Democrats trust Trump, we need new Senators. dem4decades Sunday #86
If they trust Republicans we need new Senators. rsdsharp Sunday #99
Are they really folding? I hate having the Republicans bully us and we thanking them. dem4decades Sunday #4
That's what the article says angrychair Sunday #7
Schumer had to go. There's got to be someone with some fight in them. dem4decades Sunday #11
The deal would not include an extension of the expiring enhanced Affordable Care Act subsidies -- a key Democratic demand Celerity Sunday #16
Hungry kids gulliver Sunday #6
How is this a win? SamuelTheThird Sunday #8
I don't think they're toast gulliver Sunday #14
I don't know enough to say SamuelTheThird Sunday #15
And that's assuming the House even takes it up. Chicken Magnet Sunday #26
This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Sunday #68
They have waited Demsrule86 Sunday #113
You can't let peope starve it is that simple krawhitham Sunday #51
For one, we're not the ones letting Americans starve, that would be the repigs. MarineCombatEngineer Sunday #57
I did not say she was right or wrong, all I said is she DID it krawhitham Sunday #71
So instead we kill the the ACA? Snap is cut too Demsrule86 Sunday #117
How so?!? angrychair Sunday #9
I disagree. They're not talking about ending ALL subsidies... thesquanderer Sunday #100
Respectfully angrychair Sunday #108
I understand. But if you genuinely believe ""the entire US healthcare system will collapse" under the old rules, then... thesquanderer Monday #137
Experts have said the prices would triple... into Demsrule86 Sunday #119
agreed, prices could triple for some people. For example... thesquanderer Monday #136
Hungry kids now without healthcare? Great win. dem4decades Sunday #12
How many do we let die for the healthcare subsidies? krawhitham Sunday #55
Who is starving? Let's be real, there's other sources for food, especially in the short term. dem4decades Sunday #66
Lot of food banks running dry for no one to be starving krawhitham Sunday #81
If this happens, and I'm skeptical it will, not sure how this is a win. Chicken Magnet Sunday #19
Welcome to DU. MarineCombatEngineer Sunday #20
Thanks but I hope by that point it's not too late. Chicken Magnet Sunday #22
We'll know soon enough. nt MarineCombatEngineer Sunday #23
Welcome to DU Chicken Magnet Lochloosa Sunday #74
Shutdown rso Sunday #87
They will have zero leverage in that situation... Chicken Magnet Sunday #94
Dems made their point, clearly repigs are not going to give in. Repigs get all the blowback on healthcare LymphocyteLover Sunday #89
So, Democrats prolonged a shutdown that caused a lot of pain, to make a political point? Chicken Magnet Sunday #96
What's your solution? There was no way out of this is Repigs aren't willing to give in. LymphocyteLover Sunday #130
Message auto-removed Name removed Sunday #131
Dems own it. Healthcare is on them because they caved Mr.WeRP Sunday #116
because the govt does a ton of important things besides healthcare LymphocyteLover Sunday #129
Well when they die because they can't get health care, I will personally hold you and them accountable. Mr.WeRP Sunday #49
Caving is winning? Cirsium Sunday #121
So...government gets opened until JANUARY??? And we do it all again. Lucy snatches the healthcare subsidy football from Nanjeanne Sunday #10
Read the article ... I no longer trust CNN sources Greywing Sunday #13
I updated My OP angrychair Sunday #27
Vote. Schumer. Out. Of. The. Leadership. Role. Baitball Blogger Sunday #17
We better not cave EnergizedLib Sunday #24
This article seems to be pushing what the Republicans in the Senate want to happen Quiet Em Sunday #25
I did update my OP angrychair Sunday #30
I just read it. Quiet Em Sunday #36
The GOP proposed sendingthe subsidies directly to the individuals SSJVegeta Sunday #28
No, it's not angrychair Sunday #33
Thats a good point. I revise my statement to the far less compelling: SSJVegeta Sunday #46
If the subsidies were sent directly to the individuals, I imagine it would be considered income generalbetrayus Sunday #48
Okay. Very much not* the same thing... SSJVegeta Sunday #50
shumer is such a poor leader. Cobalt Violet Sunday #29
Horrible but we won the 2025 election & Republicans will own the end of ACA for 2026 bucolic_frolic Sunday #31
So they're not caving. nt MarineCombatEngineer Sunday #32
Not sure what you mean. N/T angrychair Sunday #34
Positive update angrychair Sunday #104
Thank you for the update. MarineCombatEngineer Sunday #106
Second update from Politico angrychair Sunday #126
If republicans Rebl2 Sunday #35
It's deeper than that angrychair Sunday #39
Post removed Post removed Sunday #37
If you are disappointed in turnout or independents in the next election, remember this decision. RockRaven Sunday #38
Oh brother. QueerDuck Sunday #54
You seem to have completely missed my point. I am not making any threats RockRaven Sunday #110
Okay. QueerDuck Sunday #128
People need a reason to vote Samael13 Sunday #114
People are not very smart sometimes. QueerDuck Sunday #127
Condescension and insults that'll help being voters in Samael13 Monday #135
+1 202 224 6542. CALL SCHUMER orangecrush Sunday #40
I just left him a message.... BigmanPigman Sunday #97
Left him a message also - I doubt it will matter. Can't understand why he would trust anything the GOP says? walkingman Sunday #122
NO! NO! NO! lees1975 Sunday #41
F this. Absolutely NOOO! AllyCat Sunday #42
Goddamn it. This is ridiculous. Scrivener7 Sunday #43
Not that bad of a plan really, if it is the plan krawhitham Sunday #45
Unfortunately, no. angrychair Sunday #47
Seems to me BWdem4life Sunday #95
Exactly. That's how politics works. It's a chess game, it's give-and-take, it's maneuvering... QueerDuck Sunday #61
And with discontinuity of coverage TommyT139 Sunday #80
Give and take? MontanaMama Sunday #90
It stops no pain MerryBlooms Sunday #65
We have the upper hand now with air traffic controllers not being paid - TBF Sunday #83
Shit sandwich! No way! F this, all a this!! MerryBlooms Sunday #52
If this happens Docreed2003 Sunday #53
Discussions confirmed in "the Hill" as well - Thune is trying to push this vote through tonight TBF Sunday #56
All two parties agree that you have the freedom to suffer and die. DJ Synikus Makisimus Sunday #58
Everyone pissed off at Jon Stewart, wondering how Dems were gonna piss away a win? This! All a this BS MerryBlooms Sunday #59
I hope this is not true. kacekwl Sunday #60
Me too. My heart gonna be broke MerryBlooms Sunday #76
Nope, nothing to see here taxi Sunday #62
Let's give our lunch money to the playground bully again.. Permanut Sunday #63
DON'T BE BOOTLICKERS Blue Owl Sunday #64
Omg, i feel.like we're trapped in that crappy game show. Deal, Or No Deal!?! MerryBlooms Sunday #67
I hope this is NOT accurate. DO NOT CAVE Bread and Circuses Sunday #69
OMG Chasstev365 Sunday #70
FUBAR BannonsLiver Sunday #72
If Republican's lips are moving, they're lying! MerryBlooms Sunday #73
The Pubes will never honor their agreement. Clouds Passing Sunday #75
JFC underpants Sunday #77
Oh, sure Cirsium Sunday #78
Shutdown rso Sunday #82
We can't trust them at all! mvd Sunday #84
I can envision Been A Dick Donald telling his toadies in the Senate to go ahead MarineCombatEngineer Sunday #88
Don't believe it. This is from cnn Javaman Sunday #85
MSNBC is reporting right now that Elisa Slotkin senseandsensibility Sunday #91
And she has every incentive to not trust the repigs given their past history of going back on their "promises". MarineCombatEngineer Sunday #93
If there were no Republican concessions gained, dlk Sunday #92
Remember when Jon Stewart asked how Happy Hoosier Sunday #98
Schumer caved again? maliaSmith Sunday #101
Perhaps its the easiest way to make sure that they lose the midterms quakerboy Sunday #102
Democratic Senate Leadership is turning into an oxymoron. NoMoreRepugs Sunday #103
Many a slip between a cup and a lip... paleotn Sunday #105
I was so proud of my Sen. that fateful day, MarineCombatEngineer Sunday #107
Yep! That was one of those moments in history you can't forget. paleotn Sunday #111
Post removed Post removed Sunday #109
Surrender to bullies and they will mercilessly pummel us C_U_L8R Sunday #112
Damn! Owl Sunday #120
Democratic lawmakers needed to make the number one priority to communicate to the American Doodley Sunday #123
I wish the "that's not happening, all is well" crowd here would get it through their heads that Scrivener7 Sunday #124
Well, insurance for my husband and me MontanaMama Sunday #125
And if you had known they would have pulled this rug out from under you, no doubt you Scrivener7 Monday #133
Primary these traitors flying-skeleton Monday #132
Eight dem senators that still haven't firgured out that there is no common ground between democracy and fascism. Hotler Monday #134
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