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Chicken Magnet

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19. If this happens, and I'm skeptical it will, not sure how this is a win.

Sun Nov 9, 2025, 04:39 PM

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The Democrats don't gain anything here. A promise to vote on healthcare is useless, especially if it only involves the senate. The whole point of the shutdown was to guarantee an extension of the subsidies and that isn't in this deal.

In fact, you could reason this whole episode was pointless and that the Democrats prolonged the shutdown for no reason if they can't get a guarantee on the subsidy extension.

Regardless, I'm hoping it's not true but I'm gonna contact those supposedly wavering to plead they don't cave.

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Senate Democrats to Cave to Republicans [View all] angrychair Sunday OP

Gawd I hope not! SheltieLover Sunday #1

It would be a f'ing disaster! Bobstandard Sunday #18

CNN not known for their reporting integrity. I do hope this is CNN just publicly jacking off again. NotHardly Sunday #21

I updated my OP angrychair Sunday #44

That is not a deal. It is a surrender. Demsrule86 Sunday #115

I did a second update to OP angrychair Sunday #118

I've read otherwise.................. Lovie777 Sunday #2

Just going by this article angrychair Sunday #5

Where? All I have seen with google searches is TBF Sunday #79

Will they ever learn? You can't negotiate with Lucy to kick the football at a "later date" rsdsharp Sunday #3

If the Senate Democrats trust Trump, we need new Senators. dem4decades Sunday #86

If they trust Republicans we need new Senators. rsdsharp Sunday #99

Are they really folding? I hate having the Republicans bully us and we thanking them. dem4decades Sunday #4

That's what the article says angrychair Sunday #7

Schumer had to go. There's got to be someone with some fight in them. dem4decades Sunday #11

The deal would not include an extension of the expiring enhanced Affordable Care Act subsidies -- a key Democratic demand Celerity Sunday #16

Hungry kids gulliver Sunday #6

How is this a win? SamuelTheThird Sunday #8

I don't think they're toast gulliver Sunday #14

I don't know enough to say SamuelTheThird Sunday #15

And that's assuming the House even takes it up. Chicken Magnet Sunday #26

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Sunday #68

They have waited Demsrule86 Sunday #113

You can't let peope starve it is that simple krawhitham Sunday #51

For one, we're not the ones letting Americans starve, that would be the repigs. MarineCombatEngineer Sunday #57

I did not say she was right or wrong, all I said is she DID it krawhitham Sunday #71

So instead we kill the the ACA? Snap is cut too Demsrule86 Sunday #117

How so?!? angrychair Sunday #9

I disagree. They're not talking about ending ALL subsidies... thesquanderer Sunday #100

Respectfully angrychair Sunday #108

I understand. But if you genuinely believe ""the entire US healthcare system will collapse" under the old rules, then... thesquanderer Monday #137

Experts have said the prices would triple... into Demsrule86 Sunday #119

agreed, prices could triple for some people. For example... thesquanderer Monday #136

Hungry kids now without healthcare? Great win. dem4decades Sunday #12

How many do we let die for the healthcare subsidies? krawhitham Sunday #55

Who is starving? Let's be real, there's other sources for food, especially in the short term. dem4decades Sunday #66

Lot of food banks running dry for no one to be starving krawhitham Sunday #81

If this happens, and I'm skeptical it will, not sure how this is a win. Chicken Magnet Sunday #19

Welcome to DU. MarineCombatEngineer Sunday #20

Thanks but I hope by that point it's not too late. Chicken Magnet Sunday #22

We'll know soon enough. nt MarineCombatEngineer Sunday #23

Welcome to DU Chicken Magnet Lochloosa Sunday #74

Shutdown rso Sunday #87

They will have zero leverage in that situation... Chicken Magnet Sunday #94

Dems made their point, clearly repigs are not going to give in. Repigs get all the blowback on healthcare LymphocyteLover Sunday #89

So, Democrats prolonged a shutdown that caused a lot of pain, to make a political point? Chicken Magnet Sunday #96

What's your solution? There was no way out of this is Repigs aren't willing to give in. LymphocyteLover Sunday #130

Message auto-removed Name removed Sunday #131

Dems own it. Healthcare is on them because they caved Mr.WeRP Sunday #116

because the govt does a ton of important things besides healthcare LymphocyteLover Sunday #129

Well when they die because they can't get health care, I will personally hold you and them accountable. Mr.WeRP Sunday #49

Caving is winning? Cirsium Sunday #121

So...government gets opened until JANUARY??? And we do it all again. Lucy snatches the healthcare subsidy football from Nanjeanne Sunday #10

Read the article ... I no longer trust CNN sources Greywing Sunday #13

I updated My OP angrychair Sunday #27

Vote. Schumer. Out. Of. The. Leadership. Role. Baitball Blogger Sunday #17

We better not cave EnergizedLib Sunday #24

This article seems to be pushing what the Republicans in the Senate want to happen Quiet Em Sunday #25

I did update my OP angrychair Sunday #30

I just read it. Quiet Em Sunday #36

The GOP proposed sendingthe subsidies directly to the individuals SSJVegeta Sunday #28

No, it's not angrychair Sunday #33

Thats a good point. I revise my statement to the far less compelling: SSJVegeta Sunday #46

If the subsidies were sent directly to the individuals, I imagine it would be considered income generalbetrayus Sunday #48

Okay. Very much not* the same thing... SSJVegeta Sunday #50

shumer is such a poor leader. Cobalt Violet Sunday #29

Horrible but we won the 2025 election & Republicans will own the end of ACA for 2026 bucolic_frolic Sunday #31

So they're not caving. nt MarineCombatEngineer Sunday #32

Not sure what you mean. N/T angrychair Sunday #34

Positive update angrychair Sunday #104

Thank you for the update. MarineCombatEngineer Sunday #106

Second update from Politico angrychair Sunday #126

If republicans Rebl2 Sunday #35

It's deeper than that angrychair Sunday #39

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If you are disappointed in turnout or independents in the next election, remember this decision. RockRaven Sunday #38

Oh brother. QueerDuck Sunday #54

You seem to have completely missed my point. I am not making any threats RockRaven Sunday #110

Okay. QueerDuck Sunday #128

People need a reason to vote Samael13 Sunday #114

People are not very smart sometimes. QueerDuck Sunday #127

Condescension and insults that'll help being voters in Samael13 Monday #135

+1 202 224 6542. CALL SCHUMER orangecrush Sunday #40

I just left him a message.... BigmanPigman Sunday #97

Left him a message also - I doubt it will matter. Can't understand why he would trust anything the GOP says? walkingman Sunday #122

NO! NO! NO! lees1975 Sunday #41

F this. Absolutely NOOO! AllyCat Sunday #42

Goddamn it. This is ridiculous. Scrivener7 Sunday #43

Not that bad of a plan really, if it is the plan krawhitham Sunday #45

Unfortunately, no. angrychair Sunday #47

Seems to me BWdem4life Sunday #95

Exactly. That's how politics works. It's a chess game, it's give-and-take, it's maneuvering... QueerDuck Sunday #61

And with discontinuity of coverage TommyT139 Sunday #80

Give and take? MontanaMama Sunday #90

It stops no pain MerryBlooms Sunday #65

We have the upper hand now with air traffic controllers not being paid - TBF Sunday #83

Shit sandwich! No way! F this, all a this!! MerryBlooms Sunday #52

If this happens Docreed2003 Sunday #53

Discussions confirmed in "the Hill" as well - Thune is trying to push this vote through tonight TBF Sunday #56

All two parties agree that you have the freedom to suffer and die. DJ Synikus Makisimus Sunday #58

Everyone pissed off at Jon Stewart, wondering how Dems were gonna piss away a win? This! All a this BS MerryBlooms Sunday #59

I hope this is not true. kacekwl Sunday #60

Me too. My heart gonna be broke MerryBlooms Sunday #76

Nope, nothing to see here taxi Sunday #62

Let's give our lunch money to the playground bully again.. Permanut Sunday #63

DON'T BE BOOTLICKERS Blue Owl Sunday #64

Omg, i feel.like we're trapped in that crappy game show. Deal, Or No Deal!?! MerryBlooms Sunday #67

I hope this is NOT accurate. DO NOT CAVE Bread and Circuses Sunday #69

OMG Chasstev365 Sunday #70

FUBAR BannonsLiver Sunday #72

If Republican's lips are moving, they're lying! MerryBlooms Sunday #73

The Pubes will never honor their agreement. Clouds Passing Sunday #75

JFC underpants Sunday #77

Oh, sure Cirsium Sunday #78

Shutdown rso Sunday #82

We can't trust them at all! mvd Sunday #84

I can envision Been A Dick Donald telling his toadies in the Senate to go ahead MarineCombatEngineer Sunday #88

Don't believe it. This is from cnn Javaman Sunday #85

MSNBC is reporting right now that Elisa Slotkin senseandsensibility Sunday #91

And she has every incentive to not trust the repigs given their past history of going back on their "promises". MarineCombatEngineer Sunday #93

If there were no Republican concessions gained, dlk Sunday #92

Remember when Jon Stewart asked how Happy Hoosier Sunday #98

Schumer caved again? maliaSmith Sunday #101

Perhaps its the easiest way to make sure that they lose the midterms quakerboy Sunday #102

Democratic Senate Leadership is turning into an oxymoron. NoMoreRepugs Sunday #103

Many a slip between a cup and a lip... paleotn Sunday #105

I was so proud of my Sen. that fateful day, MarineCombatEngineer Sunday #107

Yep! That was one of those moments in history you can't forget. paleotn Sunday #111

Post removed Post removed Sunday #109

Surrender to bullies and they will mercilessly pummel us C_U_L8R Sunday #112

Damn! Owl Sunday #120

Democratic lawmakers needed to make the number one priority to communicate to the American Doodley Sunday #123

I wish the "that's not happening, all is well" crowd here would get it through their heads that Scrivener7 Sunday #124

Well, insurance for my husband and me MontanaMama Sunday #125

And if you had known they would have pulled this rug out from under you, no doubt you Scrivener7 Monday #133

Primary these traitors flying-skeleton Monday #132

Eight dem senators that still haven't firgured out that there is no common ground between democracy and fascism. Hotler Monday #134