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28. The GOP proposed sendingthe subsidies directly to the individuals

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Sun Nov 9, 2025, 04:53 PM

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Instead of to the companies.

That is more or less the same thing.

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I just read it. Quiet Em Sunday #36

The GOP proposed sendingthe subsidies directly to the individuals SSJVegeta Sunday #28

No, it's not angrychair Sunday #33

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