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lees1975

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41. NO! NO! NO!

Sun Nov 9, 2025, 05:04 PM

Nov 9

After an election night when Democrats, because of their stand and because the GOP is getting the hell beaten out of them for this shutdown, Schumer is going to cave on this?

Why can't this party get it?

If this is true, and it is what they are planning to do, then we are setting outselves up to lose without being beaten.

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Senate Democrats to Cave to Republicans [View all] angrychair Nov 9 OP

Gawd I hope not! SheltieLover Nov 9 #1

It would be a f'ing disaster! Bobstandard Nov 9 #18

CNN not known for their reporting integrity. I do hope this is CNN just publicly jacking off again. NotHardly Nov 9 #21

I updated my OP angrychair Nov 9 #44

That is not a deal. It is a surrender. Demsrule86 Nov 9 #115

I did a second update to OP angrychair Nov 9 #118

I've read otherwise.................. Lovie777 Nov 9 #2

Just going by this article angrychair Nov 9 #5

Where? All I have seen with google searches is TBF Nov 9 #79

Will they ever learn? You can't negotiate with Lucy to kick the football at a "later date" rsdsharp Nov 9 #3

If the Senate Democrats trust Trump, we need new Senators. dem4decades Nov 9 #86

If they trust Republicans we need new Senators. rsdsharp Nov 9 #99

Are they really folding? I hate having the Republicans bully us and we thanking them. dem4decades Nov 9 #4

That's what the article says angrychair Nov 9 #7

Schumer had to go. There's got to be someone with some fight in them. dem4decades Nov 9 #11

The deal would not include an extension of the expiring enhanced Affordable Care Act subsidies -- a key Democratic demand Celerity Nov 9 #16

Hungry kids gulliver Nov 9 #6

How is this a win? SamuelTheThird Nov 9 #8

I don't think they're toast gulliver Nov 9 #14

I don't know enough to say SamuelTheThird Nov 9 #15

And that's assuming the House even takes it up. Chicken Magnet Nov 9 #26

This message was self-deleted by its author BannonsLiver Nov 9 #68

They have waited Demsrule86 Nov 9 #113

You can't let peope starve it is that simple krawhitham Nov 9 #51

For one, we're not the ones letting Americans starve, that would be the repigs. MarineCombatEngineer Nov 9 #57

I did not say she was right or wrong, all I said is she DID it krawhitham Nov 9 #71

So instead we kill the the ACA? Snap is cut too Demsrule86 Nov 9 #117

How so?!? angrychair Nov 9 #9

I disagree. They're not talking about ending ALL subsidies... thesquanderer Nov 9 #100

Respectfully angrychair Nov 9 #108

I understand. But if you genuinely believe ""the entire US healthcare system will collapse" under the old rules, then... thesquanderer Nov 10 #137

Experts have said the prices would triple... into Demsrule86 Nov 9 #119

agreed, prices could triple for some people. For example... thesquanderer Nov 10 #136

Hungry kids now without healthcare? Great win. dem4decades Nov 9 #12

How many do we let die for the healthcare subsidies? krawhitham Nov 9 #55

Who is starving? Let's be real, there's other sources for food, especially in the short term. dem4decades Nov 9 #66

Lot of food banks running dry for no one to be starving krawhitham Nov 9 #81

If this happens, and I'm skeptical it will, not sure how this is a win. Chicken Magnet Nov 9 #19

Welcome to DU. MarineCombatEngineer Nov 9 #20

Thanks but I hope by that point it's not too late. Chicken Magnet Nov 9 #22

We'll know soon enough. nt MarineCombatEngineer Nov 9 #23

Welcome to DU Chicken Magnet Lochloosa Nov 9 #74

Shutdown rso Nov 9 #87

They will have zero leverage in that situation... Chicken Magnet Nov 9 #94

Dems made their point, clearly repigs are not going to give in. Repigs get all the blowback on healthcare LymphocyteLover Nov 9 #89

So, Democrats prolonged a shutdown that caused a lot of pain, to make a political point? Chicken Magnet Nov 9 #96

What's your solution? There was no way out of this is Repigs aren't willing to give in. LymphocyteLover Nov 9 #130

Message auto-removed Name removed Nov 9 #131

Dems own it. Healthcare is on them because they caved Mr.WeRP Nov 9 #116

because the govt does a ton of important things besides healthcare LymphocyteLover Nov 9 #129

Well when they die because they can't get health care, I will personally hold you and them accountable. Mr.WeRP Nov 9 #49

Caving is winning? Cirsium Nov 9 #121

So...government gets opened until JANUARY??? And we do it all again. Lucy snatches the healthcare subsidy football from Nanjeanne Nov 9 #10

Read the article ... I no longer trust CNN sources Greywing Nov 9 #13

I updated My OP angrychair Nov 9 #27

Vote. Schumer. Out. Of. The. Leadership. Role. Baitball Blogger Nov 9 #17

We better not cave EnergizedLib Nov 9 #24

This article seems to be pushing what the Republicans in the Senate want to happen Quiet Em Nov 9 #25

I did update my OP angrychair Nov 9 #30

I just read it. Quiet Em Nov 9 #36

The GOP proposed sendingthe subsidies directly to the individuals SSJVegeta Nov 9 #28

No, it's not angrychair Nov 9 #33

Thats a good point. I revise my statement to the far less compelling: SSJVegeta Nov 9 #46

If the subsidies were sent directly to the individuals, I imagine it would be considered income generalbetrayus Nov 9 #48

Okay. Very much not* the same thing... SSJVegeta Nov 9 #50

shumer is such a poor leader. Cobalt Violet Nov 9 #29

Horrible but we won the 2025 election & Republicans will own the end of ACA for 2026 bucolic_frolic Nov 9 #31

So they're not caving. nt MarineCombatEngineer Nov 9 #32

Not sure what you mean. N/T angrychair Nov 9 #34

Positive update angrychair Nov 9 #104

Thank you for the update. MarineCombatEngineer Nov 9 #106

Second update from Politico angrychair Nov 9 #126

If republicans Rebl2 Nov 9 #35

It's deeper than that angrychair Nov 9 #39

Post removed Post removed Nov 9 #37

If you are disappointed in turnout or independents in the next election, remember this decision. RockRaven Nov 9 #38

Oh brother. QueerDuck Nov 9 #54

You seem to have completely missed my point. I am not making any threats RockRaven Nov 9 #110

Okay. QueerDuck Nov 9 #128

People need a reason to vote Samael13 Nov 9 #114

People are not very smart sometimes. QueerDuck Nov 9 #127

Condescension and insults that'll help being voters in Samael13 Nov 10 #135

+1 202 224 6542. CALL SCHUMER orangecrush Nov 9 #40

I just left him a message.... BigmanPigman Nov 9 #97

Left him a message also - I doubt it will matter. Can't understand why he would trust anything the GOP says? walkingman Nov 9 #122

NO! NO! NO! lees1975 Nov 9 #41

F this. Absolutely NOOO! AllyCat Nov 9 #42

Goddamn it. This is ridiculous. Scrivener7 Nov 9 #43

Not that bad of a plan really, if it is the plan krawhitham Nov 9 #45

Unfortunately, no. angrychair Nov 9 #47

Seems to me BWdem4life Nov 9 #95

Exactly. That's how politics works. It's a chess game, it's give-and-take, it's maneuvering... QueerDuck Nov 9 #61

And with discontinuity of coverage TommyT139 Nov 9 #80

Give and take? MontanaMama Nov 9 #90

It stops no pain MerryBlooms Nov 9 #65

We have the upper hand now with air traffic controllers not being paid - TBF Nov 9 #83

Shit sandwich! No way! F this, all a this!! MerryBlooms Nov 9 #52

If this happens Docreed2003 Nov 9 #53

Discussions confirmed in "the Hill" as well - Thune is trying to push this vote through tonight TBF Nov 9 #56

All two parties agree that you have the freedom to suffer and die. DJ Synikus Makisimus Nov 9 #58

Everyone pissed off at Jon Stewart, wondering how Dems were gonna piss away a win? This! All a this BS MerryBlooms Nov 9 #59

I hope this is not true. kacekwl Nov 9 #60

Me too. My heart gonna be broke MerryBlooms Nov 9 #76

Nope, nothing to see here taxi Nov 9 #62

Let's give our lunch money to the playground bully again.. Permanut Nov 9 #63

DON'T BE BOOTLICKERS Blue Owl Nov 9 #64

Omg, i feel.like we're trapped in that crappy game show. Deal, Or No Deal!?! MerryBlooms Nov 9 #67

I hope this is NOT accurate. DO NOT CAVE Bread and Circuses Nov 9 #69

OMG Chasstev365 Nov 9 #70

FUBAR BannonsLiver Nov 9 #72

If Republican's lips are moving, they're lying! MerryBlooms Nov 9 #73

The Pubes will never honor their agreement. Clouds Passing Nov 9 #75

JFC underpants Nov 9 #77

Oh, sure Cirsium Nov 9 #78

Shutdown rso Nov 9 #82

We can't trust them at all! mvd Nov 9 #84

I can envision Been A Dick Donald telling his toadies in the Senate to go ahead MarineCombatEngineer Nov 9 #88

Don't believe it. This is from cnn Javaman Nov 9 #85

MSNBC is reporting right now that Elisa Slotkin senseandsensibility Nov 9 #91

And she has every incentive to not trust the repigs given their past history of going back on their "promises". MarineCombatEngineer Nov 9 #93

If there were no Republican concessions gained, dlk Nov 9 #92

Remember when Jon Stewart asked how Happy Hoosier Nov 9 #98

Schumer caved again? maliaSmith Nov 9 #101

Perhaps its the easiest way to make sure that they lose the midterms quakerboy Nov 9 #102

Democratic Senate Leadership is turning into an oxymoron. NoMoreRepugs Nov 9 #103

Many a slip between a cup and a lip... paleotn Nov 9 #105

I was so proud of my Sen. that fateful day, MarineCombatEngineer Nov 9 #107

Yep! That was one of those moments in history you can't forget. paleotn Nov 9 #111

Post removed Post removed Nov 9 #109

Surrender to bullies and they will mercilessly pummel us C_U_L8R Nov 9 #112

Damn! Owl Nov 9 #120

Democratic lawmakers needed to make the number one priority to communicate to the American Doodley Nov 9 #123

I wish the "that's not happening, all is well" crowd here would get it through their heads that Scrivener7 Nov 9 #124

Well, insurance for my husband and me MontanaMama Nov 9 #125

And if you had known they would have pulled this rug out from under you, no doubt you Scrivener7 Nov 10 #133

Primary these traitors flying-skeleton Nov 10 #132

Eight dem senators that still haven't firgured out that there is no common ground between democracy and fascism. Hotler Nov 10 #134