The crashout on DU over the shutdown resolution is really over the top [View all]

This is not a normal shutdown. We're not dealing with G.W. Bush. We're dealing with a psychopathic president and majority party. They don't give a shit if thousands of people die. They would be content on letting this drag until next summer. THEY DO NOT CARE!

The Dems were not in a great position dealing with people that don't mind death. We do. I think many of the people here going crazy don't have to worry about their food. I know people who are in sheer panic about their kids eating. You all perfectly content with allowing hunger to make a political point.

Concerning health care, Trump would've never signed a bill for subsidies. We must realize that Republicans will NEVER fund Obamacare...shut down or no shut down. They don't care about skyrocketing premiums.

So we need to declare victory. We won it because we made it an issue. Before the shutdown, no one ever talked about the premiums exploding. Now everyone will blame Trump. This is the best we could hope for.

What leverage did we have? We have no leverage if the other side are psychopaths that don't give a rat's fuck about people dying.